TankPad wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:01 pm
but it's been shown that they are more often carried out by homegrown extremists
It confirms that the integration has failed and it is imposible in general. Their
primitive culture is not compatible with our and in many cases they simply hate us (except our money from social security system). What I was trying to say their culture and roots represents a high risk. After the Manchester news published information there are over
20000 extremists known to MI5. Why these people are still in Europe ?
You may find these incidents and number of "immigrants" looking for our money while many of them (some reports says 60%) are illiterate as
coincidence but in my point of view it isn't. These extremists/terrorists and "immigrants" shares the same hateful culture and increases a risk. If they were real immigrants with education they wouldn't try to get to Germany or Sweden exclusively known for high social security system standards. You also can not deny the increasing number of no-go zones and and other safety issues in everyday life, especially targeted to women. I've read a study why our city (Prague) is becoming popular for foreigners that caused high raise of hauses cost. One of reasons was you can let your girlfriend to go out alone in the evening without posing a serious risk, this is no longer possible in many european cities
Yesterday 90000 of people has lost another battle. It won't stop, it'll become worse and worse. After several years there won't be any big music festivals and we will have to "understand it" again. I don't want to live in such world.
A note about the integration. Last year I went to Oberhausen for a concert, it is close to Essen. When I arrive to Essen railway station to transfer to another train to Oberhausen I was a bit surprised. The people on the railway station were about 80% turkish, 5% afro and 15% germans. The same in Oberhausen. I took a walk to the hotel (that was relatively cheap considering the historic centre location, later I found why) for a 15 minutes. I almost haven't heard anyone speaking german during these 15 minutes. The hotel itself was nice, new and clean but the location (turkish area) made it cheap. I checked older comments on Booking.com and found that many people (especially women) didn't feel safe in that area, I can understand it. Next day I was looking for a bakery to get a breakfast. While there were many of them looking similar to me, it was clearly separated to 'german' and 'turkish' ones. On sunday there was something like 'cleaning day'. Many workers on the streets, guess how many of them were non-germans (Merkel said they need people for such manual work) ? Zero. I've seen the turkish people just smoking on the street, talking or rather screaming to each other but they actually never worked except running several gambling places or second hand mobile phone shops and one weird red light area. Then I moved back by train to Essen and essentially
the same scenario there as well. All the manual work was done by german (or european-look) people.
You may find it biased and short-time experience of course but even small sample is statistically significant. This is not an integration and similar scenario will happen with current "immigrants". Just added risk, no value. Such a big difference to here, where we have large vietnamese community (in the past many of them went to universities to former Czechoslovakia and stayed here). There are no long term serious issues, no no-go zones or attacks, majority of them works instead of pumping money from social security system, they speak czech and many of them have excellent results in schools. This is what I call a successful integration, if you ask.
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Now it is called "incident".