thinkpads.com Support Community Forum Index Bill Morrow's thinkpads.com Open Forum - The Original Thinkpad Support Forum
Follow ThinkpadsForum on Twitter
eCoupons
Save with Lenovo ThinkPad eCoupons
Exclusive 4% CASH BACK from eCoupons.com
Support this forum, shop at newmodeus.com
 
It is currently Wed May 22, 2013 12:46 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Dual Core Pentium M (Yonah) tapes out
PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:38 am 
Offline
Moderator Emeritus
Moderator Emeritus

Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:10 am
Posts: 1946
Location: Pennsylvania, United States
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18964

The actual tapeout was in mid-September. It generally takes 9 months to a year to tweak a microproessor for production, so I am guessing that we should see it on the market somewhere between June and Sept of 2005.

Not much is known about Yonah except that it is probably a dual core Dothan, it will be manufactured on a 65nm process, and it uses Intel's arbiter bus to connect the cores.

Because Yonah is based on Dothan, I think that it will unfortunately lack x86-64 support.

Merom, the sucessor to Yonah, is said to have a brand new core based on the x86-64 instruction set and is due in late 2006.

_________________
Homebuilt PC: AMD Athlon XP (Barton) @ 1.47 GHz; nForce2 Ultra; 1GB RAM; 80GB HDD @ 7200RPM; ATI Radeon 9600; Integrated everything else!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Dual Core Pentium M (Yonah) tapes out
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:16 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:38 pm
Posts: 33
K. Eng wrote:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18964

The actual tapeout was in mid-September. It generally takes 9 months to a year to tweak a microproessor for production, so I am guessing that we should see it on the market somewhere between June and Sept of 2005.

Not much is known about Yonah except that it is probably a dual core Dothan, it will be manufactured on a 65nm process, and it uses Intel's arbiter bus to connect the cores.

Because Yonah is based on Dothan, I think that it will unfortunately lack x86-64 support.

Merom, the sucessor to Yonah, is said to have a brand new core based on the x86-64 instruction set and is due in late 2006.


Will it be recompatabile with current P-m's ? Will a processor swap with an older pentium M system be possible


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:10 pm 
Offline
Freshman Member

Joined: Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:41 am
Posts: 81
Location: 70% southgermany 30% stockholm
very unlikely... with a 65nm process the Yonah will need a lower core voltage....
I think a new chipset is also necessary with dual-core cpus


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:57 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:58 am
Posts: 13
Location: New Jersey, US
I am not really convinced if we need a "Dual Core" processor in a laptop. First, its going to increase the power usage. Then there is not going to be '"dual" chipsets - so the essential parts of the PC are still being shared by both the core. And if I remembered correctly, I read somewhere that the Intel's Dual Core approach will not yield twice the performance increase.

Now, I would really like Intel invest more in improving Laptop Displays, Batteries & other form factors. There's a lot that can be done there...

Just my $0.02

_________________
Cheers
Bala

Thinkpads: 380XD (Still ticking), Waiting for T50p


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:49 pm 
Offline
Moderator Emeritus
Moderator Emeritus

Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:10 am
Posts: 1946
Location: Pennsylvania, United States
From what I understand, the processor's power management system is able to turn off one of the cores if it is not needed, and switch it back on during intensive tasks. Throughput and overall responsiveness of machines should increase.

I'm also pretty sure Intel is working hard on the other parts of the system. I remember seeing Anand Chandresekhar talking about dynamic backlight controls for LCDs, and I know Intel is pouring a lot of $ into battery and fuel cell technology.

The goal is 8 hours of battery life within the next few years. Personally, I think battery life will only be good enough when I can spend all day at the office without having to even worry about plugging the machine in :)

Bala Pitchandi wrote:
I am not really convinced if we need a "Dual Core" processor in a laptop. First, its going to increase the power usage. Then there is not going to be '"dual" chipsets - so the essential parts of the PC are still being shared by both the core. And if I remembered correctly, I read somewhere that the Intel's Dual Core approach will not yield twice the performance increase.

Now, I would really like Intel invest more in improving Laptop Displays, Batteries & other form factors. There's a lot that can be done there...

Just my $0.02

_________________
Homebuilt PC: AMD Athlon XP (Barton) @ 1.47 GHz; nForce2 Ultra; 1GB RAM; 80GB HDD @ 7200RPM; ATI Radeon 9600; Integrated everything else!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:07 am 
Offline
ThinkPadder
ThinkPadder

Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:07 am
Posts: 1166
Location: NY, USA
Yes, Intel described it as a power-on-demand system, with one core switched off until you need it. So it could be seen as an enhanced version of Speedstep.

_________________
IBM ThinkPad T42p (2373-7XU): 1.8GHz/1024MB, 15" UXGA, DVD-RW, 80GB, 2200b/g.
T42 (2374-3VU): 1.7GHz/512MB, 14.1"SXGA+, DVD-RW, 80GB, 2200b/g.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group