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 Post subject: X61 Tablet Express Card ??
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:31 pm 
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The description for my X61 Tablet [7762-b6u] says this:

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1 Type I / II PC Card slot with 34mm
ExpressCard via adapter, 1 secure digital card slot."

What does "via adapter" mean?

I know and use the SD slot, but have not put anything into the slot above that one; it looks like the usual PCMCIA card slot.


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 Post subject: Re: X61 Tablet Express Card ??
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:34 pm 
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RRHODY wrote:
The description for my X61 Tablet [7762-b6u] says this:

"Slots
1 Type I / II PC Card slot with 34mm
ExpressCard via adapter, 1 secure digital card slot."

What does "via adapter" mean?

I know and use the SD slot, but have not put anything into the slot above that one; it looks like the usual PCMCIA card slot.

There is a PCMCIA cardbus+ adapter card that lets you run certain USB-based express cards.

Not worth it in my opinion as most express cards you would ever want to use (such as for eSATA) won't work.

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 Post subject: Re: X61 Tablet Express Card ??
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:51 pm 
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So the Express Card will connect if you have the proper adapter - BUT - you say those cards connected via the adapter do not work. Is that the card's fault or the adapter's?


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 Post subject: Re: X61 Tablet Express Card ??
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:16 pm 
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RRHODY wrote:
So the Express Card will connect if you have the proper adapter - BUT - you say those cards connected via the adapter do not work. Is that the card's fault or the adapter's?

There are two general types of Express Cards -- USB based and PCI Express based. The cardbus+ in the Thinkpads allow you to use a Express Card adapter but the adapter only supports USB based Express Cards. Most Express Cards are PCI Express based. Some example Express Cards I think of are eSATA cards. These would be PCI Express based. These won't work on the adapter.

The only USB based Express Card I've seen is a card reader, but there are plenty of card readers available in cardbus form.

Conclusion is that Express Card via the cardbus+ adapter are useless.

I wish they had a real Express Card slot. My 4 year old HP has one :s

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X61T SXGA L7500 8GB 80GB-SSD
X61T Touch L7500 8GB 60GB-SSD
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 Post subject: Re: X61 Tablet Express Card ??
PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:45 am 
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Hello, I just bought a 34/54 USB 3.0 Express Card, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to fit in my Thinkpad X61 tablet (7767-5AU) card slot.

Is it worth getting an adaptor? As this expansion card is USB based, but maybe the adaptor won't give me full USB 3 speeds? or will it?

Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: X61 Tablet Express Card ??
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:09 am 
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The expansion card cannot possibly be USB based, because what's the point of making a USB3 adapter which runs over USB2?

It won't work.

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 Post subject: Re: X61 Tablet Express Card ??
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:51 am 
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Think Lenovo was disingenuous in advertising the X61-series as ExpressCard-compliant.

Cheers.


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 Post subject: Re: X61 Tablet Express Card ??
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:03 pm 
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ya, I'm not happy about lenovo falsely advertising express card support. It's useless in the form implemented. And my HP that is older sports a real Express Card slot -- I don't know what took Lenovo so long.

I really would love esata on the X6*. None of the cardbus esata card chipsets support AFT 4k sector drives, and almost all 2TB+ drives now use it, so I find my cardbus esata cards useless other than for connecting a bluray burner, which I rarely have purpose for on a X60. I would rather hook up a 2TB+ drive.

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X61T SXGA L7500 8GB 80GB-SSD
X61T Touch L7500 8GB 60GB-SSD
X61 2GHz 8GB 60GB-SSD
X60 & X60s 3GB 500GB-HD
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 Post subject: Re: X61 Tablet Express Card ??
PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:20 am 
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dmdsoftware wrote:
ya, I'm not happy about lenovo falsely advertising express card support. It's useless in the form implemented. And my HP that is older sports a real Express Card slot -- I don't know what took Lenovo so long.

It's not about "too long". Proper native ExpressCard 34/54 support has been around since the T43. It's just with the X6x series, due to space considerations, they had to choose between CardBus and ExpressCard. And I guess they believed that at that time CardBus devices were still more popular.

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 Post subject: Re: X61 Tablet Express Card ??
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:20 pm 
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dmdsoftware wrote:
ya, I'm not happy about lenovo falsely advertising express card support. It's useless in the form implemented. And my HP that is older sports a real Express Card slot -- I don't know what took Lenovo so long.

dr_st wrote:
It's not about "too long". Proper native ExpressCard 34/54 support has been around since the T43. It's just with the X6x series, due to space considerations, they had to choose between CardBus and ExpressCard. And I guess they believed that at that time CardBus devices were still more popular.


Wish there was a HACK/ way around to replace them :) ... Just like Middleton's BIOS change :)

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 Post subject: Re: X61 Tablet Express Card ??
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:24 am 
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You're aware that this issue actually involves the hardware instead of software...?

Just want to make sure so that you won't hope in vain... : )

Cheers.


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 Post subject: Re: X61 Tablet Express Card ??
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:33 am 
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loyukfai wrote:
You're aware that this issue actually involves the hardware instead of software...?

Just want to make sure so that you won't hope in vain... : )

Cheers.


I know. Maybe some ingenous mind can find a hardware mod/ hack :)

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X61T 7767-96U: 12.1"SXGA+/1.6C2D/3G/Vista|Ultrabase
W510 4319-2PU: 15.6"FHD/i7-720QM/4G/Win7Pro64 (for dad)
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