See if some of my threads will help you decide between the 14" and 15" T60 systems. I've owned both at one point:
14″/15″ 4:3 T60 – indepth comparison with pictures
T60 14" vs 15" LCDs from various angles

A T60 is still one of my favorite systems. I have a similar, near-stock T7200/X1400/SXGA+. Upgraded to 3GB RAM and a 320GB 7200RPM drive. That one runs XP, because it's almost the only XP system left in my home. I use it to test old games and software here and there.

The only stock options you have for 4:3 with 4GB RAM support are T61 (4:3 14.1", available worldwide), R61 (4:3 15", available only in EU/Asia markets) or X61 (4:3 12.1", but then it's almost as small as 15" SXGA+).

Or take a T60 4:3 shell and stick a T61 motherboard in it.

I been reading that Microsoft is now going to start blocking software that isn't from the MS Store or verified. Even Software for hardware like Intel. So, I am guessing if you have say, a core i 8th/9th/10th gen "Windows 11 Supported" and you want the latest update version of windows 11 or future v...

How did you get 1920x1200 in an X230?

Actually there's a third type, AHCI/PCIe -- these are SSDs that use direct PCIe connections (like NVMe SSDs), but "talk" AHCI just like SATA HDDs and HDDs. Because of the AHCI interface, they can be used as boot devices on older PCs without NVMe BIOS/UEFI support. I wonder how they achieved that. A...

RealBlackStuff wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:54 am

Nobody sells just that "frame" (for lack of a better word).

At least a couple of Aliexpress sellers seem to:
https://aliexpress.com/i/1005002660392530.html
https://aliexpress.com/i/32627451073.html

That's a pretty impressive piece of research. Nice to know there are Thinkpad fans involved with the series.

While Dec'07 is fairly early for a T61 - it could not have had a "Core Duo", since these ended with the early T60 machines.

That's an X220/T420/W520 keyboard by the looks of it. The sticker on the back says "45N2116" which an FRU for an X230/T430/W530 keyboard. This is an aftermarket keyboard, not a genuine Lenovo part. Even if the images are not wrong and you would be getting the **20 keyboard - it is indeed compatible ...

Forget about sticking random motherboards into laptop shells that were not designed for them. Laptop motherboards, unlike desktops, are not standardized.

Just get a modern / quazi-modern laptop / mini-PC.

Thank you! I can confirm the same - just installing the root certificates unblocked VOGONS (and probably many other such sites). I wonder if I should enable the full Legacy Update mechanism, seeing as I have been keeping my XP box up-to-date until the very last moment Microsoft finally pulled the pl...

All I want to do is see if the T480 motherboard will fit T470 and the bottom base cover of T480 as well. And is the LCD connector and internal battery the same on T470 to T480 as just want to just swap the board and not have to get a screen too. This should definitely work. Batteries are identical ...

The T470p and T470 chassis is not the same size (e.g., https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=131236). It's not just a matter of port placement as you seem to believe, but it looks like you really want to try this mod, so good luck.

solidpro wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:23 am

That's really spooky that the 760CDV is mentioned on IBM's own disk. But probably was an idea for about 5 minutes that went nowhere. Yeah, I'd remove it..

Done.

The T470 and T470p are completely different machines.

T480 motherboard in T470 chassis is a thing that's possible.
In a T470p - nope.

I think it's a fact made up by someone on Wikipedia. I could find no other reference to the 760CDV anywhere else on the internet. I agree. There's no source cited for the 760CDV at all. And the fact that it's not on any Hardware Maintenance Manual (at least, the ones I've seen anyway) casts a lot o...

My 15" T42 and 15" T60 have wobbliness in the hinges, but beyond that they are still solid, and it has not gotten worse. Of all my Thinkpads, only the X32 has had the hinges weakened to the point where the lid falls shut past a certain angle. Definitely better than the opposite problem. As RBS had s...

USB 2 won't have enough bandwith for a good output with HDMI. Indeed. The options are either a VGA-to-HDMI active converter, or a docking station, and then an HDMI-to-DVI adapter. However, it depends on the resolution of the 28" monitor. If it is more than 1920x1200, then even from DVI a direct ada...

solidpro wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:58 pm

I'm assuming a T25 keyboard is a 25th Anniversary Thinkpad keyboard? Not some soft of franken-sibling of the T20, T21, T22, T23 keyboard......?

Yes, that's generally the term. I always call it TP25 to avoid this confusion.

Using the restore disks gives you drivers that don't understand WPA2. That's part of the authentic vintage experience. What I ended up doing was hacking the restore ISO to have updated drivers on it (find the encrypted zip on the restore disk that contained the relevant wifi drivers, create a (non ...

If I could find a T25 keyboard for under $100 that I could know for sure is genuine then I'd just mod the palmrest and put that one in instead. As ridiculous as it sounds - if that was all that was keeping my away from my "dream laptop" that I knew I could use for years to come, I'd pay even $200 f...

Also many threads suggested MSDOS.SYS could be edited in the MS-DOS EDIT program or W3.11 notepad - which it can't - seems only Windows 95 onwards can decypher a binary file. You're doing something wrong. Win95's MSDOS.SYS is not binary, and yes, I've edited it in the DOS editor program. I guess I ...

Re: Dual Booting DOS, Win3.1 and W95 The first question I ask when someone asks how to do the above is 'what for?' What does DOS/Win3.1 give you that Win95 with its plain DOS mode does not? Then I rename win.com and winver.exe in the Win3 folder so W95 doesn't refuse to install. This suggest that y...

Edward Mendelson wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:31 am

Can you suggest a site to test?

Basically anything that gives an SSL Cipher Error or Clock Error. I think even vogons.org forum.

That out of the way, the intent of this post is to showcase six distinct eras of ThinkPads. Thank you very much for this lovely tour. To be able to cover so many eras with such eloquence is remarkable. I salute you. Era #1: Cut Corners I have a strange fascination with the cut corners myself. My sp...

Well, I'm pretty sure a T23 can use a floppy drive in its Ultrabay. It's an Ultrabay Plus, after all, which takes all Ultrabay 2000 devices. https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:Ultrabay_Devices#Ultrabay_2000_Devices If you don't care for sound in DOS - then a T23 is a more capable all-around sys...

You are not the last, for sure, because I haven't heard about it until you mentioned it. Thanks for sharing! If they can provide a simple interface to update old Windows OSes - that's nice, but not a game-changer. If they can somehow render website that stopped working with the built-in certificates...

Glad you got this to work.

I recall that for a while a few years back I ran such a triple-display setup on my Thinkpad 25 (same generation as your T570):
https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=125501

14" wide T/R61 and T/R400 are essentially the same machine. Differences are minimal. 15.4" wide R61/R500 are noticeably bulkier than their T counterparts, and use cheaper materials (although not necessarily less durable). The elusive EU-only 15" 4:3 R61 are just an R60 with R61 hardware. The Franken...