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T420s/T430s FHD/WQHD upgrade kits pre-order (paused)

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I just ordered a t400 - estimated ship date 8/26/08

If you are concerned about Wifi performance, the 5100 is said to perform a little less than the...
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T420s/T430s WQHD - Install/troubleshoot/Picture thread

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New IPS FHD Upgrade Kit for thinkpad T420 T430 ,And T430S T420S

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Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:45 pm
T510. Power Button Inoperable? Work-around?

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by endlessninja » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:38 pm

Hey all.

Found a T150 (Type 4384-DJ3 S/N R9-B5X4P 11/01, Product ID 4384DJ3) that wouldn't turn on at all. I did some research, figured it was the...

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Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:18 pm
Whether T420 at above AUD$100 is valuable 7 yrs on?

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by Yukikaze » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:11 pm

I have seen most topics on T420, and based on all that, I've summarised reasons for 'Whether T420 should be bought or not'

• Not i7, no separate...

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Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:34 am
T510 Why so many refurbished on market

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by keithsketchley » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:57 pm

Nearing the end of 2018 there still are many refurbished T510s in stores and on the Internet.

OS offered range from Windows 7 Pro through Windows 10...

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Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:50 am
32gb in a T520

Last post by dr_st « Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:06 pm
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by kr1st1an » Sun Mar 06, 2016 4:19 am

I'd like to know if anyone here has done this, or used a 1x16gb DDR3 SODIMM module in a T520. I believe some 2nd-generation i7 CPU's will support up...

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Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:06 pm
Thinkpad T420 with BIOS 1.40 (modded)

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by Lucratskill » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:21 pm

Hello everyone, I'm new here! I like this forum very much.
I would like someone to tell me what should i change on Advance settings on BIOS in order...

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Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:07 am
T500 HDMI Port

Last post by dr_st « Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:31 am
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by Fahmed7 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:07 pm

Hi guys,

I am attempting to find a way to add an HDMI port to my T500. I would like to connect it to an HDTV and output video AND audio to the TV....

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Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:31 am
Fundamental differences between T420 and T430?

Last post by TonyJZX « Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:07 am
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by HomeGrown » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:00 am

Hello all,

I currently own a T400. I love this tank, but really want something with a bit more power, as well as the upgraded graphics for doing CAD...

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Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:07 am
Windows 10 Pro on a T520

Last post by dr_st « Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:21 am
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by chzuck » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:39 am

I have Windows 10 Pro installed on a T520 and a T410s. I think Windows 10 gets much unjust criticism. I did not like it at first and actually removed...

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Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:21 am
Is a 9 cell battery for a T520 worth the extra expense?

Last post by chzuck « Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:01 pm
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by chzuck » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:27 pm

I noticed the T520 will take either a 6 or 9 cell battery. Is the 9 cell worth the added expense?

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Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:01 pm
T410s rebooting wont get past bios logo until crc battery disconnect

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by rssb » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:32 am

I have a situation with a T410s which I am trying to fix for a friend. The machine has got serviced / refurbished motherboard from Lenovo ( i5 with...

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Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:32 am
T400 replacement keyboard Part No / Fru check...

Last post by bloombug_ « Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:29 pm
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by tk2000 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:46 pm

Hi,

I need to replace the keyboard on my T400 - original is German (Part no: 42T3118, FRU:42T3152, model MW90-GR), replacement is to be English...

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Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:29 pm
T400 LCD display cable

Last post by Ignorant « Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:20 am
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by Ignorant » Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:06 am

My rarely used T400(the 8 battery heavy one) has probably display cable problems.Do all T400 have the same display cable ...or was it different for...

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Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:20 am
T400 earphone jack issue

Last post by dr_st « Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:25 am
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by markba633csi » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:49 pm

Strange problem, can't plug headphones in all the way on my T400, get no sound when I do. Plugging partway in will give sound. Phones are ok, work...

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Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:25 am
T520 FHD Touch Screen?

Last post by MikalE « Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:01 pm
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by nforce4max » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:12 pm

I own a T520 with the rather dim 1600x900 panel (stock) and considering upgrade options in the future but was doing some research and found that for...

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Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:01 pm
T-520 LED sub cards 04W1362 vs 04W1363

Last post by Thinkpad4by3 « Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:09 pm
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by wsalomon » Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:52 pm

I'm look through the part list and find two LED subcards for the T-520.

04W1362 is listed as no Mic
04W1363 is listed as having one

Checking...

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Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:09 pm
T410 Machine Type 2537-EP6

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by jpthinkpadfan » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:43 am

Happy thanksgiving everyone!
Trying to find specs for a Lenovo T410 Machine Type 2537-EP6. I downloaded the ltwbook_2013.pdf from Lenovo's web site...

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Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:24 am
Replacing T410 keyboard

Last post by axur-delmeria « Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:22 am
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by jpthinkpadfan » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:58 pm

Hey guys!
Hopefully someone can help me with this. I have a T410 keyboard where the '2' is not working. I've tried cleaning it, removed key and...

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Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:22 am
T410 Ram trouble

Last post by jpthinkpadfan « Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:39 pm
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by vo1ei » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:29 pm

Hello All, First time posting but long time reading the posts and enjoy the conversations.

I have a T410 that i'd like to upgrade fro 2x2gb to 2x4gb...

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Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:39 pm
Turn off Bluetooth (completely) T520 running Windows 10

Last post by weatherman22 « Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:33 pm
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by JayNYC » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:12 pm

Hi. T520 running Windows 10 Pro. It's a clean install of Win10Pro, does not include any of the Lenovo cruft except the System Interface Foundation...

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Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:33 pm
What mods can be applied to stock T420?

Last post by MikalE « Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:26 pm
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by Carbon_Dater » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:07 pm

Hi,

I'm currently using my sister's T420, which got her through medical school, and she is a doctor now.

She is being tempted by Dell and Apple to...

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Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:26 pm
T500 Screen in a T520?

Last post by MikalE « Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:07 am
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by MikalE » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:01 am

There seems to be enough room for this swap, but I don't know if they would be electrically or software compatible.

Mounting bosses would likely...

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Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:07 am
T520 battery

Last post by eut3n « Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:00 am
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by chzuck » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:56 pm

I have a T520 that is only charging 24% compared to its original potential. I see on eBay there are a abundance of new OEM batteries for around $30....

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Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:00 am
Seek suggestions for blu-ray replacement drive for T500

Last post by CrazyTPFan « Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:58 pm
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by James1138 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:33 am

In 2019 I am planning to replace the DVD player/burner that came pre-installed on my T500 Thinkpad so I can watch blu-ray movies. For me... it is far...

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Last post by CrazyTPFan
Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:58 pm
Upgrade T520 to W520. What do I need...

Last post by CrazyTPFan « Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:21 pm
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by sulusulu » Sun May 06, 2018 11:02 pm

I just happened across this wonderful forum while searching for upgrade options for my T520. I just purchased 16GB of ram so that I can run some VMs...

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Last post by CrazyTPFan
Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:21 pm
Getting rid of the T500 1650 x 1080 laptop and going back to the T60, still hoping on the T520

Last post by CrazyTPFan « Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:44 pm
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by fefrie » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:51 pm

Got a T500 with 8gb of Ram for $125 while I was waiting on a replacement CCFL.

Windows 7 was a bit meh for me.

It's like a clunky version of W8.1,...

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Last post by CrazyTPFan
Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:44 pm
Swapping in a W500 motherboard: Worth it?

Last post by ko « Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:27 pm
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by ko » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:54 pm

I'm looking at this motherboard:

Should I upgrade and swap for the extra GPU performance? I use Photoshop and Premiere Pro often and I'm not sure...

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Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:27 pm
T400 question - What is this slot?

Last post by Thinkpad4by3 « Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:43 am
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by Lovele » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:08 am

Can some1 please tell me what is that slot used for, from the picture I posted?
Thank you.

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Last post by Thinkpad4by3
Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:43 am
T410i costum bios

Last post by Screamer « Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:57 pm
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by radarhobby » Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:31 am

thank all...
anyone can help me searching mod bios for t410i
for whitelist network card

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Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:57 pm
T410 randomly shuts down

Last post by radarhobby « Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:29 am
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by rakirkp » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:37 pm

Recently, I hear the death knell chime which may be the same as the low battery warning-- up to 3 times then the T410 shuts down. It restarts...

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Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:29 am
T410 Function Keys and Microphone Mute Button

Last post by Nick79 « Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:17 pm
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by Nick79 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:13 am

Hello,

I have a ThinkPad T410 with Windows 10 Professional installed and many of the function keys, such as toggle wireless on/off, sleep button,...

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Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:17 pm
KVM switch

Last post by dr_st « Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:50 am
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by khudothitaymo » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:33 am

Hi,

I'm looking for a KVM switch that will work with my W540/Windows7 system.

I have the Aten CS22U switch, but my external USB keyboard is not...

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Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:50 am
All links to modded T500 bios gone?

Last post by TPFanatic « Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:22 pm
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by ko » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:46 pm

I've searched for several hours for a modded BIOS for a T500 I recently acquired. Every link I come across gives me a File is deleted or Not found...

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Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:22 pm
Camera Sticker on T510

Last post by BillMorrow « Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:24 am
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by huuchuan1113 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:37 pm

I have installed a integrated camera which bought from ebay on my T510. However, according to the seller, the camera sticker is only originally...

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Last post by BillMorrow
Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:24 am
Switchable graphics- how to startup with integrated?

Last post by CrazyTPFan « Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:57 pm
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by luciarakan » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:05 am

Hi, I've just upgraded my T500 with an ssd, and am trying to replicate my settings from my old hard drive from scratch with a clean install of W7...

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Last post by CrazyTPFan
Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:57 pm
T410s plastics cracking

Last post by Hans Gruber « Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:57 pm
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by Thinkpad4by3 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:39 am

Hey my T410s is having some problems can I sell you on some hospital beds to fix it :lol:
Ok, just kidding.

The real issue is that the plastics...

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Last post by Hans Gruber
Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:57 pm
AMT, AT, can't disable

Last post by rdrake « Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:54 am

by rdrake » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:54 am

Okay, so I disabled both in bios but I used a diagnostic program (HWiNFO64) and it shows that both are still active. So I did some research and found...

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Last post by rdrake
Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:54 am
will new keyboard solve my T410 woes?

Last post by RealBlackStuff « Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:57 am
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by henryblack » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:28 am

I had a small coffee spill on the T410 a week ago. A tablespoon or so splashed right around the middle of the keyboard. I'll describe the symptoms...

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Last post by RealBlackStuff
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:57 am
ThinkPad T410 + i7 quad = possible?

Last post by RealBlackStuff « Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:43 am
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by jamecloud » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:45 am

Admin Notice:

For whatever reason, this post seems to be hacked and/or modified with spamming.
The original post might still be somewhere in our...

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Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:43 am
Keeping a T430 going

Last post by Thinkpad4by3 « Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:35 am
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by ecojournalist » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:28 am

I just want to say thank you to all the hardcore Thinkpad geeks for your community, camaraderie and help. I bought a T430s as a primary system after...

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Last post by Thinkpad4by3
Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:35 am
Will T410 video cable work in a T410s of same resolution?

Last post by Hans Gruber « Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:14 pm
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by Hans Gruber » Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:18 pm

I have horizontal bar (half of screen) that showed up on one of my T410s models. Can I swap out the video cable on a T410 to my T410s? Both have the...

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Last post by Hans Gruber
Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:14 pm
T520 ram speeds, Cpu-z

Last post by JayNYC « Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:18 am
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by JayNYC » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:27 pm

Hi. Here is what CPU-Z shows me

Is my T520 optimized here? Is this fast as I gets?

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Last post by JayNYC
Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:18 am
Stick with my T420 & T430?

Last post by brucehe « Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:25 pm
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by matis » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:42 pm

I had the idea that I should buy a later model T Thinkpad because the ones I have may go bad as they got older.

But truth is, I love my T420 and my...

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Last post by brucehe
Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:25 pm
Random vertical lines on display

Last post by TheForgottenKing « Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:09 am
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by brucehe » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:39 am

This is on a T400 with LED backlight and integrated Intel graphics (no Nvidia gpu). Problem started with a vertical red line on the display a day...

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Last post by TheForgottenKing
Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:09 am
T420 bios v1.52 Spectre fix

Last post by TonyJZX « Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:42 am
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by skx » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:23 pm

UEFI: 1.52 / ECP: 1.20
- Security fix addresses LEN-22133 Speculative Execution Side Channel Variants 4 and 3a (CVE-2018-3639, CVE-2018-3640). Refer...

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Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:42 am

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