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Where to buy Lenovo 4-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:35 am
by Edward Mendelson
If anyone has any suggestions about a reliable, relatively low-priced source for X61 4-cell batteries, I'll be very grateful. I was hoping to buy one from ThinkPad Lover on this forum, but his July 9 posting shows all his X61-compatible batteries as sold out. Thanks for any advice.

Edit: I don't where I got the idea I was looking for a 6-cell...

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 6-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:15 am
by ScottyBoy
Edward Mendelson wrote:If anyone has any suggestions about a reliable, relatively low-priced source for X61 6-cell batteries, I'll be very grateful. I was hoping to buy one from ThinkPad Lover on this forum, but his July 9 posting shows all his X61-compatible batteries as sold out. Thanks for any advice.
Which country are you based in OP and also do you have access to eBay? :D

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 6-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:48 am
by Thinkpad Lover
Edward Mendelson wrote:If anyone has any suggestions about a reliable, relatively low-priced source for X61 6-cell batteries, I'll be very grateful. I was hoping to buy one from ThinkPad Lover on this forum, but his July 9 posting shows all his X61-compatible batteries as sold out. Thanks for any advice.
Hi Edward,

I have some 4-cell x61 batteries arriving Monday. Don't go to Ebay for batteries :BAAAD!: Buy from one of the sellers in the Marketplace here.

Batteries sold on Ebay are often untested, or only quickly plugged into a laptop for a few minutes to show they are charging. Many Genuine x60/x61 series batteries will even show "Good condition" in Lenovo Power Manager, give a 2 to 4 hour estimate but will suffer from what I will call the "sudden cut-off syndrome" after 15 minutes. Most of the Genuine, used batteries sold on Fleecebay are "working pulls," removed from de-commissioned machines and stored away for a long time without being charged, which often leads to further damage to the Li-Ion cells. Some of them died a long time ago but have been mixed in with the working ones, were stored away with the laptops, and are now being auctioned off as "Genuine used x61 battery" with no further info. provided...

x60/61 batteries I sell are fully tested and conditioned, charged and fully discharged through at least 2 cycles with temperature and charging activity monitored for any abnormality. Furthermore, unlike most Ebay sellers, I carefully and fully time each battery I sell under constant DVD play, screen on full brightness and note the time in my listing. Batteries will last longer under normal use. And obviously the actual run time will vary slightly based on sleep, screen brightness, power management settings and your usage patterns. But this gives you a rough idea of run time and by so doing I am testing to make sure the battery takes a full charge, and conditioning the battery so it has accurate run time estimates and data it is sharing with Lenovo Power Manager.

I have sold hundreds of batteries on this Forum without issue. Many of these buyers inform me the battery they received exceeded their expectations and was even better than described.

As for Ebay sellers, God Bless their hearts. I have nothing personal against them. Yes, some of them are crooked and will purposefully ship you a dead battery which leads to a big hassle with Paypal, Ebay resolution center and return shipping fees (on you), not to mention loss of time and possible damage to your laptop from a dead or knockoff battery. However, some of them are honest but are simply clearing out excess corporate inventory as fast as they can, and simply can not/ will not take the time to test their items as thoroughly as I do. Also, they are usually not very knowledgeable about the proper care of Li-Ion batteries: http://batterycare.net/en/guide.html#descTot

Buying batteries from Ebay is like playing Russian Roulette. Sometimes you will escape unscathed, but more often than not you will get a good scare, have a hissy fit, or get shot :eek:

By the way, there are no Genuine 6-cell batteries for x60/ x61 series Thinkpads: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloa ... PD013282#8 The "6-cell" x61 batteries you find listed on Ebay (regrettably) underscore the ignorance of the Ebay sellers. They are actually 4-cell or 8-cell, but (unfortunately) they don't even know what they're selling :)

Your options are:

4-cell 14.4 V 2.6 AH (fits flush)
8-cell 14.4 V 5.2 AH (sticks out about an inch)
"Extended battery" (dock style battery, snaps onto the base).

Keep your eye on my listing here; as I said, I have a fresh crop arriving Monday:
x200,x60 Tablet,x61,T42,T60,R60,T61,R61,T400 BATTERY: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=99121

Daniel.

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 4-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:14 am
by Edward Mendelson
Hello Daniel,

That's very good news about your Monday shipment! I'll be in touch in exactly five days...

I don't know where I got the idea I was looking for a 6-cell battery. I've owned X61 models for years and should have remembered that I was looking for a 4-cell (flush) battery, not a 6-cell. I'll try to fix the thread title.

I know you're right about eBay sellers, though I once had good luck with a seller who had sealed boxes and reported the manufacturing date of his stock. My more typical experience was with an eBay seller in Hong Kong who was offering "new, never-used" X61 batteries for about $29. I gave one a try a few months ago - and it was, in fact, completely unused (as the Lenovo Power Manager confirmed), but it had been manufactured in 2006, and of course it only lasted a few weeks and then died completely. So it was "new" only in the sense that it had never been opened, but otherwise it was collapsing from old age. The seller refunded part of the purchase price, so I wasn't burned too badly, but I'll know better next time.

Talk to you on Monday!

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 6-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:51 pm
by TuuS
I have to agree about buying batteries (as well as many things) on ebay. Batteries that are new generic are often shipped from overseas as personal shipments so are exempt from the procedures to make sure they are legitimate and pass RoHS and UL safety standards. They are basically black market batteries. Hopefully if anything good comes from this new usps ban on shipping batteries, it will slow down the inflow of fake batteries, however most of the more successful sellers of these things have them warehoused in usa and have a local person ship them to fill orders.

I was scammed into buying one, listed manufacturer as Lenovo and a photo of a genuine. What I was sent had only two words in english, just "replace thinkpad", which I'm guessing is instructions of what to do after you install it... followed by a puff of smoke and that burning odor all techs are familiar with lol

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 6-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:11 pm
by Thinkpad Lover
What I was sent had only two words in english, just "replace thinkpad", which I'm guessing is instructions of what to do after you install it... followed by a puff of smoke and that burning odor all techs are familiar with lol
rofl +1

Daniel :)

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 4-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:07 pm
by Thinkpad Lover
@ Edward Mendelson : Ah... I just got word that what I have arriving are New x60s and x61s 4-cell slim batteries. I assume you have an x61, not x61s, so unfortunately the slim battery wouldn't fit. Sorry :(

I'm sure if you post a WTB in the Marketplace you could find a Genuine Lenovo 4-cell from one of the other guys on the Forum. Many x60/61 owners here. Someone should have a good 4-cell available.

Good luck in your search.

Daniel.

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 4-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:30 pm
by Edward Mendelson
@ Thinkpad Lover - Not a problem: I'll post a WTB, as you suggest. (Actually I have an X61s too, but I don't need a battery for it - only for the X61 that I just bought with its original - and nearly defunct - battery.)

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 4-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:59 pm
by ScottyBoy
I suppose it comes down to who your dealing with via the Ebay route - myself, I've purchased a number of second hand batteries via eBay UK (all sellers with good feedback) and they've been in a good condition (in terms of cycles & wear)...I must have got the lucky sellers! :wink:

I suppose purchasing internationally would be a very different kettle of fish at the end of the day.

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 4-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:36 am
by ctoph0
id love a new battery for my x61s as well

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 4-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:07 am
by Thinkpad Lover
ctoph0 wrote:id love a new battery for my x61s as well
I have Genuine New 4-cell slim batteries for the x60s and x61s. (What I am temporarily out of are x60, x61 4-cell batteries). The "slim" battery fits and is specially designed for the "s" models and will not fit the x60, x61. It's actually lighter/ slimmer than the 4-cell cylindrical x60, x61 batteries and works nicely with the lighter x60s, x61s models to make them even lighter and also slimmer (if you use the slim battery) than the x60, x61. And since the x60s/x61s uses a low-voltage fan, battery life is extended even further. That's why I love the "s" models. (Sorry all x60, x61 owners :wink: )

If interested, just check my listing here:
x200,x60 Tablet,x61,T42,T60,R60,T61,R61,T400 BATTERY: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=99121

More info. about the 4-cell slim battery: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/itemdetails/4 ... 397599C2A4

Anyone curious about the difference between the x60/x61 and x60s/x61s models read more here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo- ... -x61s.html and here http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3765

X61s
Platform: Centrino Duo, ultramobile notebook
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo ULV L7500 1.6GHz
Memory: 2GB DDR2 (up to 4GB)
Chipset: Intel Mobile Express 965
Display: 1024×768 (XGA)
Hard Drive: Hitachi Travelstar 7K100 100GB ATA-6 2.5in 7200RPM
Communications: a/b/g/n WiFi
Graphics: Intel X3100 Graphics
OS: Vista Business
Windows Vista Experience Index: 3.4 (lowest component: graphics)
Weight: minimum 2.73 lbs, up to 3.48 lbs (with 8-cell battery)

X61
Platform: Centrino Duo
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0GHz
Memory: 2GB DDR2 (up to 4GB)
Chipset: Intel Mobile Express 965
Display: 1024×768 (XGA)
Hard Drive: Hitachi Travelstar 7K100 100GB ATA-6 2.5in 7200RPM
Communications: Intel Pro a/b/g WiFi, WWAN (Sierra Wireless 1xEV-DO
network adapter), Bluetooth
Graphics: Intel X3100 Graphics
OS: Vista Business
Windows Vista Experience Index: 3.4 (lowest component: graphics)
Weight: 4-cell cylindrical battery: 1.41 kg (3.11 lb), 8-cell
cylindrical battery: 1.63 kg (3.56 lb)

Daniel.

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 4-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:37 pm
by bwsb
Hi Daniel,

What do you charge for a X61T 8cell battery in great/excellent condition?

(Weird btw your profile page says your account doesn't exist and you can't be PM:ed.)

Brgds, Mikael

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 4-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:26 am
by kamaleon
Hi - I'm also interested in finding out the prices for X61 batteries - 4 cell or 8 cell. Can't seem to click on your link either... :(

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 4-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:59 pm
by dmdsoftware
I'm looking for X60/1 and X61T batteries. Don't see anyone selling any on the forums. Anyone going to be selling any soon?

I picked up an original 2009 manufactured X60 battery just last week. No cycles, but it's been manufactured in 2009 so it may not live very long. I'm charging it up right now.

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 4-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:48 pm
by TuuS
Thinkpad Lover no longer sells in this forum, that's why you cannot click on his profile or send a PM. You can reach him by email if you like.


I picked up an original 2009 manufactured X60 battery just last week. No cycles, but it's been manufactured in 2009 so it may not live very long. I'm charging it up right now.

There is no reason to believe the battery won't be as good as new. The original batteries that shipped with the laptops were often higher quality the the replacements.

Regarding the x60/61 tablet batteries, I think I just sold the last 8 cell that was close to new condition, I might have another but I'd have to check.

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 4-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:30 am
by dmdsoftware
TuuS wrote:Thinkpad Lover no longer sells in this forum, that's why you cannot click on his profile or send a PM. You can reach him by email if you like.


There is no reason to believe the battery won't be as good as new. The original batteries that shipped with the laptops were often higher quality the the replacements.

Regarding the x60/61 tablet batteries, I think I just sold the last 8 cell that was close to new condition, I might have another but I'd have to check.
Lithium doesn't store well (deep discharge or something). When I first plugged it in, I got the blinking amber light, but wasn't sure. I had X60 batteries die on me with the rapid amber light blink, so I was questioning is this blink that one or the one indicating no charge left.

I checked the battery properties in Linux. Manufacturer date 2009-09, first use date 2012-10-27. Cycle count = 0. Charge = 0.0, state = charging. It stayed on 0 for about an hour, but started charging after that. I charged it up and now I'm discharging it. If it survives, then it was a gem of a deal. It was an authentic IBM/Lenovo battery. I broke the seal on the box myself. It was an OEM part sitting on some warehouse shelf for 3 years :)

Let me know about the battery (if you find it). If you have his email address, can you PM it to me?

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 4-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:25 pm
by Edward Mendelson
dmdsoftware wrote:Lithium doesn't store well (deep discharge or something).
Your unused battery was manufactured in 2009. Earlier this year I bought a sealed, unused zero-cycle Lenovo-branded X61 battery, manufactured in 2006; it lasted one month, as described here:

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=103558

I don't know how much my experience with a six-year-old battery applies to your three-year-old one, but it's something I've kept in mind for future purchases.

I've recently bought a battery from TuuS that works perfectly. I hope to buy from TuuS again.

Before that, I bought a battery from another seller who is no longer a member of this forum; it overheated on my system, and the seller asked me to return it. That story didn't end well; I ended up with $20 less than I started, and my inbox got cluttered by a sheaf of e-mails in which the seller explained at great length that he was serving Christ by breaking his promise (the seller's promise, not Christ's) to make a full refund.

Re: Where to buy Lenovo 4-cell battery for X61?

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:41 pm
by dmdsoftware
Edward Mendelson wrote: Your unused battery was manufactured in 2009. Earlier this year I bought a sealed, unused zero-cycle Lenovo-branded X61 battery, manufactured in 2006; it lasted one month, as described here:

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=103558

I don't know how much my experience with a six-year-old battery applies to your three-year-old one, but it's something I've kept in mind for future purchases.

I've recently bought a battery from TuuS that works perfectly. I hope to buy from TuuS again.

Before that, I bought a battery from another seller who is no longer a member of this forum; it overheated on my system, and the seller asked me to return it. That story didn't end well; I ended up with $20 less than I started, and my inbox got cluttered by a sheaf of e-mails in which the seller explained at great length that he was serving Christ by breaking his promise (the seller's promise, not Christ's) to make a full refund.

I agree with you. Had I known this battery was 3 years old I would not have bought it. That's why I still believe I may have issues with it.

Battery purchasing is a hard thing, and gets harder and harder as the laptops get older.