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Edit June 2017

Now offering Windows Seven Professional, 64 or 32bit for $39 with free delivery worldwide*



*Electronic delivery of disc, physical delivery of COA free for domestic and $4-12 for international (former is with no tracking in an international letter, the latter is with customs declaration and limited tracking), but free electronic delivery of a scan (of COA) is available for international buyers for free. Also available is delivery of disc and coa for $7 domestic and $20 international.

Still have Vista Business (pro) SP2 available with COA for $20 and XP pro for $10

End of June 2017 update

Edit: These were initially offered starting at $10 and up (coa) and $10 (disc). I've since reduced the prices as outlined below. If you want multiple copies and only need one disc, then $5 will be reduced from the cost of of each additional purchase to reflect the cost of the disc and postage.

Update: 9-22-2012

*Topic reorganized*

Vista Basic $15 (disc and coa) $5 off *2 left*

Vista Business $25, 32 or 64bit (disc and coa)

Vista Ultimate $40, 32 or 64bit (disc and coa) *2 left*

XP Professional $25 (disc and coa)


All windows Seven versions are sold out and I have a waiting list so they aren't likely going to be posted unless a surplus becomes available.

Vista is perhaps the most under rated operating system ever made by microsoft, dollar for dollar it's far better the Seven or any other, in fact a fully updated vista isn't much different then seven and at a fraction of the price.


Domestic shipping is included FREE!!!

International shipping $17

Optional Free International delivery of COA with download of disc.

PM Sent

sorry, first day back from vacation so my mind isn't exactly thinking about laptop stuff, but in reference to the "COA", are you selling the sticker from the bottom of a machine, or ??

Just guessing, but most likely it is the COA that comes with the purchased disk

The COA's are all OEM, some originally came with discs, some with laptops. The discs are custom made with the latest service packs integrated and in the case of the windows XP discs, SATA drivers are added so you don't need to use compatibility mode or a floppy disc to add the drivers during install.

ps. For obvious reasons the discs cannot be sold without a matching COA, but I listed them separately in case someone want's multiple copies they won't have to purchase multiple discs. This way someone could get ten legal copies for less then it would cost to purchase one from most retail suppliers, and naturally if anyone has any activation problems that cannot be resolved I'll gladly accept returns.

Domestic shipping is free via 1st class mail, add $2 if you want tracking numbers.

International delivery $17 (Disc and COA)


Free international delivery is available if you download and burn the disc yourself and the COA will be sent international airmail.

Count me in for an XPP with SP3 and the SATA mods.

Just brought a used R400 with os, the COA is there and readable but the description is not. Looking up the product number, it look like it comes with VistaBusiness. If the Vista Business works with a R400, I like to get a copy. Thanks.

Pm sent for 1 COA - XP Pro.

I'm interested in the vista basic disk

I'm interested in buying the vista basic disk

vicsd12 wrote:I'm interested in buying the vista basic disk

Sent you a PM, and can ship your disc/coa as soon as tomorrow.

Greetings:

I am interested in 2 copies of Vista Business. Please contact me for payment arrangements.

Thanks!

-Brad

TuuS wrote:ps. For obvious reasons the discs cannot be sold without a matching COA, but I listed them separately in case someone want's multiple copies they won't have to purchase multiple discs. This way someone could get ten legal copies for less then it would cost to purchase one from most retail suppliers, and naturally if anyone has any activation problems that cannot be resolved I'll gladly accept returns.

I don't mean to be "that guy," but OEM and VL licenses are non-transferable. What you are selling here is improper licensing. There is nothing legal about it. You might as well be using antiwpa or daz loader, and downloading your discs off tpb. With SLIC tables embedded in the BIOS, why go through all the trouble? But if you can actually find folks willing to pay you real dough for it, more power to you. I happen to know someone that is in the middle of a $80k lawsuit from the BSA for this very thing. Be careful. There are folks out there that will rat you out for the chance at some BSA reward money.

Why do you say the discs can't be sold without COA for obvious reasons? There is nothing wrong with selling backup media and the buyer using their own license that came with the computer (or in the SLIC table), as long as they are buying the edition that the computer is licensed for (which wouldn't be your problem).

jayton4 wrote:I don't mean to be "that guy," but OEM and VL licenses are non-transferable. What you are selling here is improper licensing.

These laws are confusing and that's why I have never sold any of the COA stickers that I pick up every now and then, to be safe. You seem to know a lot more than I about these laws, so let me ask you this: If I sell a COA sticker on a piece of computer hardware (e.g. a memory cover, a computer case, etc.), would that make it legal? I vaguely recall that Newegg was doing something like for a while, like selling a cheap CPU fan along with a COA sticker and Windows installation media.

All quotes from http://www.leconconsulting.com/?id=46

As we have discovered, Microsoft does not have all of this information organized in one convenient location. Much of it, in fact, is buried in long, dry license agreements and on sites that are available only to partners. I couldn't find this information in one convenient place, so I decided to do the job myself. We gathered details from many public and private sources and summarized the various types of Windows 7 license agreements available to consumers and business customers.

OEM (major PC manufacturer)

• Your copy of Windows is locked to the PC on which you purchased it. You cannot transfer that license to another PC.
  
  You can upgrade any components or peripherals on your PC and keep your license intact. You can replace the motherboard with an identical model or an equivalent model from the OEM if it fails. However, if you personally replace or upgrade the motherboard, your OEM Windows license is null and void.

pianowizard: Newegg does sell OEM versions of Windows (which will include a COA in the package), but those are different because they have never been "used". These OEM copies are meant for system builders who build computers and resell them:

OEM (System Builder)

• As with the royalty OEM versions, your copy of Windows is locked to the PC on which it is installed and cannot be transferred to a PC, nor can the motherboard be upgraded.
  
  Although it is possible for an individual to buy a System Builder copy of Windows 7 and install it on a new PC, that scenario is specifically prohibited by the license agreement, which requires that the software be installed using the OPK and then resold to a non-related third party.

And from the bottom of the very same page:

Disclaimer: This article does not represent a legal advice. The information in this article comes from official Microsoft sources and represents our interpretation and belief based on our experience with Windows. We believe this information to be accurate, but you should not rely on anything written here to make any buying or deployment decisions without reading the full license agreements. If you are concerned about your legal rights and responsibilities, you should consult an attorney and get any necessary legal advice for those issues.

Much-a-do-about-nothing, IMO.

If Bill himself doesn't have an issue with this posting, I really don't see why anyone else would, but that's me...

There are countless legal precedents in the USA courts that do NOT allow a manufacturer or publisher to control the sale of their products beyond the initial first sale. For example, it would be illegal to sell brand new Fords or Chevys, but once the original owner buys it, he can do with it as he pleases. I'm sure microsoft would love to be able to control resale of their products, but the fact is they cannot.

ps. even the EU courts have deemed it legal to sell used software...

http://www.pcworld.com/article/258720/e ... nline.html


Also, the rights to resell copyrighted material is covered by the "first sale doctrine", and as long as a person legally owns the product and is selling it without keeping a copy, and is transferring all rights to it, then it's legal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

This forum takes no position either FOR or AGAINST the selling of "used" software..

the person making any such post offering any item for sale assumes all responsibility and liability by the act of making such a post..

in short, if you don't agree to assume all liability for your actions, don't make the post..

Note: I am now and have always been a FREE MARKET "CAPITALIST" and I support anyone who makes a few bucks or a billion bucks by working hard or buying and selling.. Which means I oppose anyone who would take what someone else earned and keep it for them selves or use it for "SOCIAL JUSTICE" and the buying of power for them selves..

Thanks Bill,

This post is nothing more then it appears to be, just one thinkpad fan sharing with others. I paid good money for the operating systems and my only intention was to share them with the community at a very fair price. I believe any software that was legally purchased and contains a genuine certificate of authenticity can be resold, but if this is going to cause drama in the forum then I will withdraw the post.

With the current world economy, more and more people out of work, many of us are fixing up old computers and equipment rather then buying new and this is what I've always loved about thinkpads, there is always someone offering the parts you need to keep your system running. I first begun trading parts almost 20 years ago on the compuserve network which predated the www, and I think such trades are the heart and soul of a free market system and in order for a free market system to work, publishers and manufacturers of new products need to compete with others, and with sales of their own used products. If it was illegal to buy used cars, then the auto manufactures would raise the prices on the new ones. Software is no different, and if someone wants to purchase a license direct from the publisher, they are free to do so. There is also a worldwide problem involving forged or pirated software, I stand firmly against anyone selling a product they didn't obtain legally.

Updated June 2017 (added Windows Seven pro) and updated shipping options

What should legality matter. What is microsoft care over one sold copy of vista or 7 regardless. Don't have better things to do, like stopping piracy, making deals with the NSA?

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Thinkpad4by3 wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:38 pm

What should legality matter. What is microsoft care over one sold copy of vista or 7 regardless. Don't have better things to do, like stopping piracy, making deals with the NSA?

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We've had this discussion before, these are legally purchased software, the EU has settled this matter that it is legal to sell software you legally own as long as you sell it with the Certificate of Authenticity and transfer all rights of ownership, and the usa has a precedent called the "first sale doctrine", all of which was discussed above and the current legal standing is that manufactures and publishers only have the right to control the first sale of any item. You can sell your used car however you see fit, you can sell a book you've read, and you can sell a game you purchased and the manufacturer is not involved in the sale, however if someone prefers to purchase software new from the publisher, then please do so.

However if someone was selling software without surrendering the license or while keeping a copy for themself, then I would agree with you, but these discs all come with a genuine COA that matches the software, nothing pirated here.

TuuS wrote:

Thinkpad4by3 wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:38 pm

What should legality matter. What is microsoft care over one sold copy of vista or 7 regardless. Don't have better things to do, like stopping piracy, making deals with the NSA?

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We've had this discussion before, these are legally purchased software, the EU has settled this matter that it is legal to sell software you legally own as long as you sell it with the Certificate of Authenticity and transfer all rights of ownership, and the usa has a precedent called the "first sale doctrine", all of which was discussed above and the current legal standing is that manufactures and publishers only have the right to control the first sale of any item. You can sell your used car however you see fit, you can sell a book you've read, and you can sell a game you purchased and the manufacturer is not involved in the sale, however if someone prefers to purchase software new from the publisher, then please do so.

However if someone was selling software without surrendering the license or while keeping a copy for themself, then I would agree with you, but these discs all come with a genuine COA that matches the software, nothing pirated here.

Basically its legal if you`re selling the orginal disc, but copying is illegal. I wonder how many people got caught for the $250,000 fine that everyone know so well from the beginning of VHS tapes?

Anyway, Shoudn`t we all just worry about who will be the new owners of these discs, not the questionable legality that has a 0.000001% of having a problem?

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You are mistaken, microsoft doesn't sell discs, they sell licenses, the discs are freely distributed and when you own a license, you have the right to use it.

I again point out that this has already been hashed out and you can read the full discussion in this topic, which is why I revived it instead of making a new one. I'll also point out that there have been many others here selling discs without COAs, which I have never done, and all of the ones here come with a genuine microsoft license.