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Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
Objection, Your Honor!
That UXGA-link is for a LED-mod, which ONLY applies to 15" T60 and/or R60/R61.
T43/p can NOT work with such a screen.
That UXGA-link is for a LED-mod, which ONLY applies to 15" T60 and/or R60/R61.
T43/p can NOT work with such a screen.
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Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
When there is a will there is a way. Break out the SOLDERING IRON AND EAGLECAD!!!RealBlackStuff wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:00 pmObjection, Your Honor!
That UXGA-link is for a LED-mod, which ONLY applies to 15" T60 and/or R60/R61.
T43/p can NOT work with such a screen.
I don't have the first clue on how to build a LED board, go ask nitrocaster for one.
Thinkpad4by3's Law of the Universe.
The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.
The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.
Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
I just knew someone would say something like this, but I didn't expect it to be so fast!Thinkpad4by3 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:23 pmWhen there is a will there is a way. Break out the SOLDERING IRON AND EAGLECAD!!!RealBlackStuff wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:00 pmObjection, Your Honor!
That UXGA-link is for a LED-mod, which ONLY applies to 15" T60 and/or R60/R61.
T43/p can NOT work with such a screen.
I don't have the first clue on how to build a LED board, go ask nitrocaster for one.
Is the printing for your own motherboard prototype designs cost-effective in the US?
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Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
No, just the inverter I think. The LED mod was made for the T60 series machines. I could probably get an inverter PCB manufactured in the US for a few dollars a board.
Thinkpad4by3's Law of the Universe.
The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.
The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.
Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
That's something I don't understand really... screens. What is the true difference between say IPS and LED? (At least I know the general difference between TN and IPS, but don't care and so far I've always been using TN screens.)Thinkpad4by3 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:13 pmNo, just the inverter I think. The LED mod was made for the T60 series machines. I could probably get an inverter PCB manufactured in the US for a few dollars a board.
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Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
IPS AND LED are talking about two different things
First, a bit of tech stuff. A LCD is made up of two parts, the panel and the backlight. It works by shining this light through the glass which has the pixels.
TN and IPS are types of the glass. IPS is known for its superior angles.
LED and CCFL are types of backlights. LEDs are about 30% more power efficient, can go to much higher brightnesses, dont wear out, mostly have better color representation, dont use unreliable(more than LED driver boards) and dangerous inverter boards, and overall are much improved.
You can shine an LED backlight through a crappy TN panel and you will get an bright, low contrast mess. You can have a crappy CCFL lamp and have a unsaturated mess with no brightness.
LED and IPS is like the best of both world, and it is pretty darn awesome!
First, a bit of tech stuff. A LCD is made up of two parts, the panel and the backlight. It works by shining this light through the glass which has the pixels.
TN and IPS are types of the glass. IPS is known for its superior angles.
LED and CCFL are types of backlights. LEDs are about 30% more power efficient, can go to much higher brightnesses, dont wear out, mostly have better color representation, dont use unreliable(more than LED driver boards) and dangerous inverter boards, and overall are much improved.
You can shine an LED backlight through a crappy TN panel and you will get an bright, low contrast mess. You can have a crappy CCFL lamp and have a unsaturated mess with no brightness.
LED and IPS is like the best of both world, and it is pretty darn awesome!
Thinkpad4by3's Law of the Universe.
The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.
The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.
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Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
For the T6x/R6x LED-mod just changing the inverter is not enough.
It also requires a separate 14-pin connector.
The LCD-cable pinout is also 180 degrees reversed.
The whole lot can also be solved by re-soldering ~44 points on the back of the LED-LCD. Good luck with that!
I did the (experimental) LED-mod on a T43p for George/ajkula66:
https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=107018
https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=107072
But we had to give up since the brightness control only worked on the top-two levels.
Below that the backlight switched off.
And believe you me, these LED-screens are BRIGHT!
It also requires a separate 14-pin connector.
The LCD-cable pinout is also 180 degrees reversed.
The whole lot can also be solved by re-soldering ~44 points on the back of the LED-LCD. Good luck with that!
I did the (experimental) LED-mod on a T43p for George/ajkula66:
https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=107018
https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=107072
But we had to give up since the brightness control only worked on the top-two levels.
Below that the backlight switched off.
And believe you me, these LED-screens are BRIGHT!
Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
This is not entireley true. My T43 w/Ati sports a LED-modded (not the supermighty ex-factory LED) UXGA IPS. I did not mess with ex-factory LED panel simply because it's super-expensive, but most possibly there is a (vaery expensive and hard to perform) way.RealBlackStuff wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:00 pmObjection, Your Honor!
That UXGA-link is for a LED-mod, which ONLY applies to 15" T60 and/or R60/R61.
T43/p can NOT work with such a screen.
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Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
I had a bunch of these older ThinkPads upgraded to UXGA displays before. It would be best if you can source all the parts (IPS inverter, UXGA cable, UXGA panel) as one piece.Annecy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:38 pm2) a UXGA Display Upgrade/MOD on my 15" T43 2686-M7U with ATI on my 15" T43 2686-M7U with ATI
Hoping to hear from anyone "out there" who could help me one way or another to have the above MODS/upgrades done
If not, I have a grade B T43 system (with UXGA IDTech panel and backlight replaced, but with some damages like dirt and yellowing, but doesn't have IPS inverter).
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Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
C'mon, download the T43 manual from the HMM link above, buy a Phillips #0 precision screwdriver and DIY.
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Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
Only if you can get the parts for cheap (for that UXGA screen, IPS inverter and that piece of cabling), as well as having past experience with electronic parts, otherwise I question the success rate.RealBlackStuff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:18 pmC'mon, download the T43 manual from the HMM link above, buy a Phillips #0 precision screwdriver and DIY.
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T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
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T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
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Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
1) Conventional 2.5" IDE SSDs are mostly garbage, overpriced and easily a decade behind their SATA cousins, total waste of money IMO.
2) If you can't find anyone to perform the SATA-mod for you, stick with a 7200rpm spinner and call it a day. Count your blessings that the system in question still boots, and is not ready for landfill just yet.
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Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
Nice step, though I do not know what advantages that TP-Link mPCI card is gonna bring over the stock one if your stock one is in a nice condition and you are using it on that laptop. (no x64)Annecy wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 2:41 pmThis past week I (downloaded the HMM &)
also removed ALL the necessary screws from my T43
to remove the KeyBoard & PalmRest Bezel ...
I had to use each of the following :
to complete the above ~
which I did ...
to replace the "native" Intel mini PCI WiFicard:
with that TP-Link mini PCI card:
Since I have a bunch of those 2200BG and 2915ABG cards from all kinds of lots, I have one of them on my desktop and even that is working fine for me right now, with it having enough speed to stream 1080p YouTube videos, provided that I am not switching to x64 on that Pentium 4 machine (which, there is no point to).
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T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
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A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
Lat C840 P4-2.5 2gb 60gb W7 (Ultrasharp)
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
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Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
Don't buy such cheap Chinese junk.
It'll wear out after only a few uses.
See this instead: https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.p ... 58#p788758
And your TP-link card should do anywhere between 180 Mbps and 300 Mbps.
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Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
How's your UXGA mod going?
Now that I figured out a way for you to save your cash on the UXGA cable, I may be able to help you.
Now that I figured out a way for you to save your cash on the UXGA cable, I may be able to help you.
Dell Lat CP MMX-233 64mb 40gb W2k
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
Lat C840 P4-2.5 2gb 60gb W7 (Ultrasharp)
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
Lat C840 P4-2.5 2gb 60gb W7 (Ultrasharp)
Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
Is there any freaky special way for this mod or am I just ignorant enough to use T43p UXGA tape + led-modded UXGA from T60?
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Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
As far as I know of, the LED mod doesn't work all that well on T4x series.
I was talking about possibly saving the cost of a T4x UXGA cable by modding the hard wired jumpers on the cable. Practiced it on a T4x and R5x cable (both 15" XGA) and both worked (One as SXGA+ one as UXGA)
You might still wanna get the IPS brightened inverter to get that optimum screen brightness
Dell Lat CP MMX-233 64mb 40gb W2k
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T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
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A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
Lat C840 P4-2.5 2gb 60gb W7 (Ultrasharp)
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
Lat C840 P4-2.5 2gb 60gb W7 (Ultrasharp)
Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
Hmm... I should consider mine a non-working one then?
It works well with no issues with daylight LED strip and controller from Monty + Boe-Hydis UXGA from T60p + standard T43p ribbon cable.
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Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
What you call the LED-mod is what I do, i.e. convert the HV150UX2-100 with ex-factory LED backlight, to work in the 15" T60 or R61.
The mod comprises reversing the LCD-connector on the LCD-cable and modding the inverter to accommodate LED-backlight.
More info, see here: https://www.theboardroom.info/led_mods2.html
This LED-mod is known NOT to work properly in the T43/R52, see here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=107018 and here: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=107072
But AFAIK a regular HV150UX1-100/101 (or other UXGA), converted from CCFL with e.g. xiphmont's LED-backlight will do the trick in a T43.
The mod comprises reversing the LCD-connector on the LCD-cable and modding the inverter to accommodate LED-backlight.
More info, see here: https://www.theboardroom.info/led_mods2.html
This LED-mod is known NOT to work properly in the T43/R52, see here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=107018 and here: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=107072
But AFAIK a regular HV150UX1-100/101 (or other UXGA), converted from CCFL with e.g. xiphmont's LED-backlight will do the trick in a T43.
Re: LF: T43 "MODs": SATA/MB & UXGA/Display ...
Well, a stock Led panel is unlikely to be further led-modded, right?RealBlackStuff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:24 amBut AFAIK a regular HV150UX1-100/101 (or other UXGA), converted from CCFL with e.g. xiphmont's LED-backlight will do the trick in a T43.
This is entirely true; speaking of LED-mod I was thinking about led-modding (no big surprise) a stock T60p CCFL UXGA IPS screen.
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