Thinkpads Forum

dock, wireless card, and usb port (both of these are pcmia or whatever)
Here's the kicker:


operating system is linux, and the battery is dead, lasts about 5 minutes.

Distribution: ubuntu breezy badger w/ automatix upgrades succesfully installed

I am looking to upgrade and just want to know what I have. Thanks.

If you are looking for offers, to determine the value...I am pretty sure that I can offer you $225 shipped for it, if you are interested.

I have someone that is looking for a T21-T22, and I am pretty sure that they would take it without the OS and the fact that it pretty much has a dead battery.

Yeah, I am just looking for what you, in the know people think its worth.

It is a flawless machine, in my oppinion, and I would just buy a 90 dollar version of windows exept I am ready to upgrade to something with a sufficient graphics card.

Rough starting value (to me) is about $275 for a working T22 (T23 @ 1.13GHz = $300 - $25 for the mild speed downgrade)

If I were considering what to bid for it on Ebay, I would:

Subtract $45 for a missing (legal and with attached COA) copy of Windows. (Half the cost of an 'OEM' WinXP Home CD). So, if you were selling the machine to me, you'd lose money installing Windows on it now ...

Subtract $40 for the dead battery. That'd allow me to buy an 'Original IBM, used, holds enough charge for 90 minutes' or (a fair percentage of the cost of a) 'Newly made, not original, guaranteed to work for a few months or your money back minus a lot of shipping charges' battery, or sending the old one to http://www.batteryrefill.com/laptops/ib ... _t20.phtml and waiting a few weeks for the returned unit.

Add about $15 for the upgrade to 512 MB Ram. This is probably unfair, since compatible PC100 memory is expensive. Base price assumed 256 mb installed.

No changes for the 20gb hard drive or the cd-rw (a Combo drive would have added about $15).

You didn't provide name brands for the pcmia cards and I'd want to use Linux on it eventually, so it's hard for me to assign a value -- since I can't check to see if they'd (easily) work under linux... Add $7 for the no-name wireless card, or $20 if it was a chipset I recognized.

The poster above with the $225 offer is in the right ballpark.

Rick

well if you every wanted to part it out, I'm interested in the dock and the cdrw.

Just wondering.... T22 accessories should work in the T23 right?

Some T23 and T22 parts are interchangeable. (ie. optical drives, batteries, Mini-PCI cards, hard drives)

Then there are things that are not interchangeable, like the processors and in some cases the memory. The T23 uses PC133 and the T20-T22 use PC100. Sometimes a T23 will accept some of the PC100 sticks, but generally a T20-T22 will not accept the PC133.

As for the OS, there are plenty of "friendly" forum members here that are willing to send you copies of their T22 restore disks for shipping plus a small handling charge (some even do it for free, as I have for my T21 and T23). To my knowledge, this would circumvent the issue of having an "illegal" OS. The restore disks are not based on the Product Key on the COA.

As for the offer of $225....it appears to still be there if you are interested.

Updates:

If you included the correct restore disks (even if they were burned copies), or had an intact recovery partition on the hard drive, no deduction in price. Maybe I phrased the first post badly -- I would be willing to pay more for an easy way to restore XP to the machine at a later date. Despite my signature, my A20m is on vacation 100 miles away with a close friend who needed a reliable laptop to work on / complete her Masters thesis. It was a hassle getting XP back on that machine on short notice before I loaned it to her... Obviously, your Thinkpad was delivered with a legal copy of Windows (98 SE or Win2k) as confirmed by tawbook.pdf.

I skipped over the dock in the initial estimate, but haven't shopped for one before, so I have no mental price for that. In general, I'd add 80% of the 'typical' selling price of a dock from Ebay if it was included.

If I saw good pictures to support the flawless condition claim, that might be worth $25 over my base price.

If you forgot to mention that this unit has the SXGA+ (1400x1050 res) screen, that would probably be a $50 upgrade (top-of-the-head number, maybe it's worth more. maybe less).

You might also want to list the card in the Mini-PCI slot -- I assumed an Intel ethernet/modem card, the modem-only card would be a $10+ downgrade. Maybe more, I'd have to check used prices... I'd want ethernet internally.

I was bothered by my tone after reading my previous posting. $225 sounded low to me. It's probably on the low-end of the actual value of the unit -- I get outbid on Ebay quite often...

Rick

I will have to check out some of that stuff and see how it works.

Now let me get this straight... even though I have completely reformated, repartitioned the hd and installed linux on it.. I can still recover windows?

How much will this run me?

You won't be able to "recover" windows, since you completely formatted the drive.

You can certainly post here to see if anyone can provide you with copies of the proper restore disks for your system. I would be more than willing, but unfortunately, I only have the T20, T21 and the T23 restore disks. Be sure to include your model and type number so that you get the right restore disks, as some came with Win98SE and others came with Win2000.

Can I ask you about the restore disks? I have a T23 If I were to use the restore disks could I then register it with Microsoft with my coa number on the bottom?
Do the restore disks generate that number you are supposed to tell the telephone robot if you call in? Or the Indian person if the robot fails to register it?
Do you know if this number is generated by the disk you used or by the machine you put it on?
Thanks
MM

The restore disks are not like regular Windows disks. They don't require verification, validation or registrations through Microsoft. The restore disks are such that they will only load on one of the systems that they were made for.

In other words, if you have Win2000 recovery disks for a T23 that came with Win2000, it will install perfectly and not ask for any type of verification.

At one point a Had an A31 with restore disks and after installation it told me I had 30 days to register and when I attempted to it said that the registration was not valid. .....so I wiped it.I stilll have those disks and another A31. wondering if I should try it again??
I just love those Ibms I think I am an obsessive compulsive laptop purchaser. I have a 600E, an A31, aT21 a T23 and a G40. I just sold a i1410 very clean almost new. put in more ram and it was a sweet old thing.