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Re: Locked T23 machines
Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 5:30 pm
by JHEM
Severian wrote:JHEM wrote:If you believe THAT i've got some oceanfront land in Nevada you'd probably be interested in!
James
James, it is good to be skeptical. But, there are real occurances such as that. I am not convinced I believe that seller. Before I bid, I would want to investigate further. Do you have anything constructive to add, such as an easy way to check for stolen ThinkPads? I doubt such a registry exists, but, if I don't ask, I won't learn.
No, there's no such registry.
If an ex-employee left a computer locked and unusable upon discharge, it's
THEFT plain and simple.
Five minutes at the local police station or sheriff's office would have the PW out of the ex-employee when he found out he was going to be arrested for grand theft!
Regards,
James
Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 5:30 pm
by csv96
carbon_unit wrote:Still which series is the "Desktop Replacement", which is the "ultralite portable" and so on.
I see "A" series, "R" series, "T" series and "X" series.
What are the plusses and minuses of each series?
The X-series is the ultraportable line.
The G-series is the not-so-portable budget line
The T-series is IBM's signature line with a good compromise between portability and performance
The R-series is the budget line with similar features as the T-series but not so elegant
The A-series was discontinued.
Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 5:34 pm
by hausman
carbon_unit wrote:"A" series, "R" series, "T" series and "X" series.
What are the plusses and minuses of each series?
"A" (no longer made) and "R" are desktop replacements. "A" had three spindles (HD, CD/DVD and floppy.) "R" has only the first two, but you can add floppy via USB.
"T" are the workhorses. They're generally a compromise between function, speed and size.
"X" are the smallest and lightest but they also have the smallest screens (12"), smaller keyboards and only one spindle (HD.)
You're probably looking for a "T" or an "A."
The "p" at the end means "professional" or "pricey." It's the top of the line and has better LCD, graphics, multimedia, etc. than p-less models.
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 1:26 am
by BillMorrow
don't forget the 240, 240X..
very nice in its time and still very useable and cheap..
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 7:39 pm
by carbon_unit
hausman wrote:carbon_unit wrote:"A" series, "R" series, "T" series and "X" series.
What are the plusses and minuses of each series?
"A" (no longer made) and "R" are desktop replacements. "A" had three spindles (HD, CD/DVD and floppy.) "R" has only the first two, but you can add floppy via USB.
"T" are the workhorses. They're generally a compromise between function, speed and size.
"X" are the smallest and lightest but they also have the smallest screens (12"), smaller keyboards and only one spindle (HD.)
You're probably looking for a "T" or an "A."
The "p" at the end means "professional" or "pricey." It's the top of the line and has better LCD, graphics, multimedia, etc. than p-less models.
Thanks! That was exactly what I was looking for.
Yes, it appears I am looking at something in the A30 or T23 range. Probably a T23 because of the better battery life.
One more question, Why are people so down on refurbs? Is there something wrong with them?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 10:32 pm
by BillMorrow
refurbs get a bad rap, because:
1. short warranty..
2. bad name "refurb" makes potential customers leery..
reality is some refurbs are just new machines that were refused at the door..
some were opened and then returned for no other reason than the customer was having a bad day, OR it might have a stuck on pixel..
a refurb can be a good value..
or not..
its a gamble..
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 1:22 pm
by ian
I've just noticed the title of this thred "Used Thinkpad Advice" - Be very careful - personally I'd only ever use NEW advice (with a garantee) in a box etc...
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 1:29 pm
by JHEM
ian wrote:I've just noticed the title of this thred "Used Thinkpad Advice" - Be very careful - personally I'd only ever use NEW advice (with a garantee) in a box etc...
Happy now?
James
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 4:17 pm
by ian
spose so...

Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 4:33 pm
by n3il
JHEM wrote:
Happy now?
James
James,
Is there definitely warranty on this advice?!
Will I have to swap the fan for the "long" version to avoid "fan noise"?!!!

Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 6:08 pm
by JHEM
n3il wrote:Is there definitely warranty on this advice?!

Yes, that advice comes with our warranty that's "outa' sight"! The warranty is good for as long as you have me in sight!
n3il wrote:Will I have to swap the fan for the "long" version to avoid "fan noise"?!!!

No my short fans are as noisy as the long ones, just as my male fans are as noisy as the female, even though there are so
many more females fans.
Regards,
James the Modest
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 6:23 pm
by hausman
ian wrote:I've just noticed the title of this thred "Used Thinkpad Advice" - Be very careful - personally I'd only ever use NEW advice (with a garantee) in a box etc...
"Used" advice is often better than the new variety. It's also known by another name:
experience.
As for guarantees, if you're ever dissatisfied with my advice, I'll gladly refund double what you paid for it
P.S. Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment.
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 10:19 pm
by DrGrafix
You should've taken a look at my T21 which I recently sold on eBay last week. It had the 40 Gig GNX HDD, a 1.0Ghz CPU, 512MB RAM, DVD/CD player, W2K Pro OS and Windows Office 2000, all the OEM Recovery CDs, a floppy ultrabay, a zip250 ultrabay, and a spare CD-only ultrabay. It sold for $909.00 and I was relatively happy with that. Condition was 9.5 out of 10 (honest). The original 3-year warranty is up June 1st, but I believe IBM can extend that. It was a fine machine and it's driving me to buy another IBM even if I have to take a loss on a new HP I bought in a moment of weakness.
Mike
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 11:18 pm
by carbon_unit
Well, I bought a 2647-4MU for right under $700.00 shipped today with 1 extra battery, an AC adapter, 256 megs ram, a CDRW drive and about 8 months of warranty left.
It is supposed to be in "Great Condition" just like all the others on ebay. We'll see when it shows up.
The guy had good feedback and communicates well. I should be OK.
There was one on there for $600.00 "Buy It Now" but it didn't feel "right" to me.
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:09 am
by carbon_unit
It arrived yesterday and all seems well except that the restore partition (if any) has been blown away and it came without any restore CDs or owners manual. It has a generic version of windows 2000 pro on it. Other than that I can't find anything wrong with it.
It sure is quite a step up from a TP600 with a 366 in it.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:31 am
by BillMorrow
i MIGHT have an archived set of recovery CD's for that T23..
might have a W2k version..

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:59 pm
by mdbrown
Severian wrote:mdbrown wrote:In the sub-$400 range the list gets much smaller. Depends on what you want to do with it too. I have a 770x that I put a 400Mhz PII in and added the DEVA card. Very capable for most common tasks. Plays DVDs very well and the screen is gorgeous. You might be able to land a 600x or 390x with a PIII in this range too.
The biggest thing I want that I can't do with my 560Z is playing mpeg4 encoded videos. I capture videos from my VCR and encode them myself. I would like to take some of theses with me at times to show people. That takes about a 500 or 600 MHz cpu do play smoothly. Since laptops are somewhat performance compromised as compared to desktop PCs, it might need a bit more. Other than that capability, my 560Z serves me pretty well. A larger screen than the 560Z's 800 by 600 would be a plus. I also want a bigger hard drive, but I can do that to the 560Z.
p.s. I am intentionally not cutting the quote at the top of this message at all. My previous quotes have not worked well and this is a test.
Then you would probably do well with a 390x or 600x, both of which you can get with a 500Mhz PIII, the 600x you can get with as fast as a 650Mhz PIII. They both have the crappy mediamagic video chip so gaming is out of the question but most everything else should work wonderfully on either machine.
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:38 pm
by carbon_unit
morrow wrote:i MIGHT have an archived set of recovery CD's for that T23..
might have a W2k version..

PM sent.
Re: NEW Advice about Used Thinkpads
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 2:54 am
by pataslocas2001
Might send iso files? please
Re: NEW Advice about Used Thinkpads
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 4:08 am
by ajkula66
pataslocas2001 wrote:Might send iso files? please
You do realize that this thread is a decade old?
Please start your own...
Re: NEW Advice about Used Thinkpads
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 2:07 pm
by Temetka
This has to be the oldest necro thread I have read on the TPF.
That being said, it was good read and some of the prices you guys paid seemed absurdly high. Until I looked at the post dates.
Re: NEW Advice about Used Thinkpads
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 6:47 pm
by cadillacmike68
It doubles my old record of 5 years. And I have the original recovery CDs somewhere.
Re: NEW Advice about Used Thinkpads
Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 7:28 am
by Gripcon
As do I. 2000 & XP, I think.