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WTB: IBM X-Series X31/x32, X60 or Ibm 240Z
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:27 am
by Jvivek
I am been lurking around this site reading tons of post and decided to buy one of the following laptops:
X31/X32
or
X60
or
240Z, 240X with xga screen <-rare but it will be nice to have legacy serial port.
Please pm me with your offer.
Re: WTB: IBM X-Series X31/x32, X60 or Ibm 240Z
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:40 pm
by pianowizard
Jvivek wrote:240Z, 240X with xga screen
All 240X models have SVGA only. Most 240Z models also only have SVGA, but one or two have XGA. If you can't find an XGA 240Z, the very slightly more common (though still extremely rare!) S30 might be a good substitute.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:12 am
by Jvivek
so far no one sent any pm's
I am bummed out.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:29 am
by gator
PM sent.
It'll be good if you can post a price range - more people might respond.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:29 am
by Ken Fox
Jvivek wrote:so far no one sent any pm's
I am bummed out.
With the exception of a used X60, none of these models are going to sell for enough that the owner, unless already planning to get rid of their laptop, is going to offer to sell it to you. Using the X31/X32 as an example, they are still fully functional and do everything that most subnotebook owners would want. They have achieved near cult-like status for many owners. Why would a satisfied owner of such a laptop choose to sell it for the few hundred dollars it would fetch? As a spare laptop they are certainly worth more than that to the owners who paid maybe $1200 to more than $1500 for them just a year or two (or maybe 3) ago.
My X32 is on its 4th hard drive; not because it needed it but because I've continued to upgrade it. It is almost as functional as the X60 I bought but am returning (awaiting a replacement) due to very hot right palmrest temps.
The rapid onset of planned obsolescence with laptops is beyond ridiculous these days. It would make sense if the newer ones could really do anything that the old ones can't, or do it better, but in most cases they really can't, at least for most users. It is exactly like the newer software releases. Is there honestly anything that even 3% of users need from MS Office that the 2007 version does better than the XP or 2003 or 2000 versions? The last useful advance I've seen with that software was the ability to turn off that obnoxious paperclip character, and that was about 5 years ago.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:04 am
by gator
Brilliant post, Ken. I agree 100%. (I am sending your pic this week BTW)
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:35 am
by Jvivek
I am looking to spend around 600 dollars.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:13 pm
by Ken Fox
Jvivek wrote:I am looking to spend around 600 dollars.
There's someone who's been selling X31s, one machine each day, with an included ultrabase, on ebay. The seller has been referenced in some posts on these forums. I'm not sure what the final sales prices have been but you could find out by doing a completed items search on ebay under "X31 Thinkpad"
I think those models are new or in new condition, have no operating system, and have about a 1.5 year's warranty remaining.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:46 pm
by gator
Ken Fox wrote:Jvivek wrote:I am looking to spend around 600 dollars.
There's someone who's been selling X31s, one machine each day, with an included ultrabase, on ebay. The seller has been referenced in some posts on these forums. I'm not sure what the final sales prices have been but you could find out by doing a completed items search on ebay under "X31 Thinkpad"
I think those models are new or in new condition, have no operating system, and have about a 1.5 year's warranty remaining.
Seller's name is assetdisposition. URL below:
http://computers.search.ebay.com/_Lapto ... isposition
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:22 pm
by tomh009
Those X31s have wiped disks (nothing on them, including the OS). However, they do have the COA stickers, so they are licensed to use Windows XP. You'll just need to locate a CD image ...
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:53 pm
by pianowizard
tomh009 wrote:You'll just need to locate a CD image ...
Or find an OEM Windows XP CD, which is much easier to do.
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:36 am
by Jvivek
my only problem is he won't ship to Canada, I already contacted him and he is not comfortable shipping to Canada at this time, I also got a nice offer from gator but the ebay auction has new laptop
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:07 am
by pianowizard
Jvivek wrote:my only problem is he won't ship to Canada
If you go to eBay's "Advanced Search" page and indicate that you want items "available to Canada", you will find 9 X31's. These are the 3 cheapest ones with BIN:
$429.99US plus shipping
$449.99US plus shipping
$449.99US plus shipping
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:26 am
by tomh009
Jvivek wrote:my only problem is he won't ship to Canada, I already contacted him and he is not comfortable shipping to Canada at this time, I also got a nice offer from gator but the ebay auction has new laptop
I think there is a way ... whereabouts in Canada are you?
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:11 pm
by Jvivek
I am in Calgary Alberta,
I got two offers here but they are expensive compared to what I can get on ebay.
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:16 pm
by Jvivek
I work outside a lot, I am hoping this laptop will be able to deal and work in -20 weather inside my van, I don't really want the weight of toughbook.
I use my hp 4700 pocket pc, I always leave it sitting in my van, the coldest day here was -37 and it worked like a charm.
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:19 pm
by tomh009
I'm in Ontario but I may be able to help ... I will send you a PM.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:54 pm
by Jvivek
I gave up on x31 and now I am looking for 240x.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:59 pm
by pianowizard
Jvivek wrote:I gave up on x31 and now I am looking for 240x.
So you don't mind having only SVGA (800x600) resolution any more? The 240X also only has one USB port and doesn't have built-in ethernet. The 240Z has two USB ports (I think, but am not sure), and some models have built-in ethernet and XGA.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:01 pm
by tomh009
240x is SVGA, which can be rather painful just web surfing these days -- many sites expect you to have at least XGA.
Why not an X2 series?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:07 pm
by AlphaKilo470
If you're willing to go a little larger than the models you've specified, you should try taking a look at the 570 and 570E as they have a tendancy to go for relatively cheap on eBay from time to time. I managed to snag a 333mhz 570 on eBay last year for $50 and there are 570Es going for just over $100.
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:28 pm
by pianowizard
I forgot to mention that the
I series 1124 is very similar to the 240Z, including having 10.4" XGA. It's probably equally rare though.
This site has more photos of the i1124.
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:47 pm
by underclocker
The 240 series don't make much sense and are not that great - just light. For $100-$200, I'd pick up an X20 or X21. For $200 too $350, I'd pick up an X22, X23 or X24. I did just pick up an X40 for $500. Now that's a nice ride.
I've owned all except an X21. The 240 wasn't anything special and the keyboard layout was a little wierd.
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:53 pm
by pianowizard
underclocker wrote:The 240 wasn't anything special and the keyboard layout was a little wierd.
The 240Z is worth pursuing because it's a collector's item. Even the 240X is much rarer than the X series. Another reason for trying to get a 240/X/Z is it's cute! I would not mind paying a little more for a 240Z than for an X22.
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:45 pm
by Jvivek
I give up my pursuit on obtaining these laptops, ah well
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:40 am
by tfflivemb2
Jvivek wrote:I give up my pursuit on obtaining these laptops, ah well
You give up after 14 days?
You should try checking eBay, if you want a 240 series....most members here, if they have one, aren't going to part with it.
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:41 pm
by pianowizard
tfflivemb2 wrote:You give up after 14 days?
Right, that's too soon! I have been looking for an affordable HP nc2400 or Panasonic Y4/Y5 for half a year and am still checking eBay several times a week. That's what we need to do if we are unwilling to shell out big bucks for a nice laptop. Patience is important.
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:17 pm
by boon
why give up?
there are alot of laptops x series sells in ebay and still couple that can be shipped to canada.
I was looking for x30/x31 for months to make up my mind, but that's because I want hell of a cheap one.
you're willing to pay 600$ for a x31 you should have bought by now what's the problem
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:00 pm
by Jvivek
crappy specs