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Seagate OEM Hard drive but in perfect condition with no bad sectors.

Asking $160 shipped.

Heatware: freddy418
Ebay: freddybobman


HD Tune:

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what is the seagate model number..?

does the next owner have the balane of the 5 year warranty..?

Is that a 7200.2 60 GB drive rather than a 160 GB? I didn't think Seagate had released a 160 GB 7200 rpm Momentus ...

tomh009 wrote:Is that a 7200.2 60 GB drive rather than a 160 GB? I didn't think Seagate had released a 160 GB 7200 rpm Momentus ...

Look at the screenshots, its a 160. I'm waiting for the 300gb's though.

RUSH2112 wrote:

tomh009 wrote:Is that a 7200.2 60 GB drive rather than a 160 GB? I didn't think Seagate had released a 160 GB 7200 rpm Momentus ...

Look at the screenshots, its a 160. I'm waiting for the 300gb's though.

True ... it does appear that way. It's not on the main Seagate web site, though. Searching for it, I only found a few references, including a Seagate Japan brochure:
http://www.seagate-asia.com/japan/ecata ... _japan.pdf

So if that's what it is, one does wonder about the warranty ...

RUSH2112 wrote:Look at the screenshots, its a 160. I'm waiting for the 300gb's though.

The largest 7200rpm laptop HDDs being sold in the States are only 100GB, right?

the model is ST9160823AS, it is in the screenshots.

It is an OEM drive and there's probably no warranty.

-dan

HOLY CRAP! How did this one slip under my radar?

Someone BENCHMARK that puppy. It could be a perpendicular recording drive. If so, at 7200RPM, it would smoke even the Hitachi 7K100 (drooling now).

Just to clarify the warranty thing:

THERE ARE NEVER WARRANTIES on OEM drives that have been removed (pulled) from laptops. The warranty is with the machine, and not the drive.

If you plug the serial into the online warranty checker it will puke b/c it isn't in the database as warrantied.

brentpresley wrote:HOLY CRAP! How did this one slip under my radar?


Just to clarify the warranty thing:

THERE ARE NEVER WARRANTIES on OEM drives that have been removed (pulled) from laptops. The warranty is with the machine, and not the drive.

If you plug the serial into the online warranty checker it will puke b/c it isn't in the database as warrantied.

To further clarify: some online seller such as Newegg sell both NEW "retail kits" and "OEM" drives. This is a different situation than buying a used drive that was originally sold as part of a laptop (e.g. a "pull"). The term "OEM" has been so misused over the last few years that it is hard to know what it means anymore, including usage as a "verb" such as "it was OEM'd."

In the Newegg or other vender sense, an "OEM Drive" means a drive sold without a manual, cables, or screws, but otherwise the same. The one difference is that such drives often or usually have different warranty periods than do drives sold in retail kits.

In most cases such "OEM" packaged drives sold retail carry LONGER warranties than do the retail packaged drives. I can't recall the last "retail packaged" notebook drive I've bought from Newegg or elsewhere; the majority of the notebook drives that Newegg sells these days are "OEM" versions. You can click on the manufacturer's links on the Newegg product listings to find out more about any particular drive. In addition, of course, in general, Newegg will take merchandise back up to a year later and replace it if it becomes defective during the first year. They state that this is in addition to any manufacturer's warranties offered. Most manufacturers date the onset of the warranty to the date of manufacturing, so if you receive a drive that was made a year ago (as recently happened to me) you have just lost one year of warranty.

Ken, the proper term for those drives from NEWEGG is "Retail BARE", not OEM.

But you are right, the terminology has gotten smeared over the years.

brentpresley wrote:Ken, the proper term for those drives from NEWEGG is "Retail BARE", not OEM.

But you are right, the terminology has gotten smeared over the years.

As an example of the misuse of the term "OEM," I was sold a 72 watt Thinkpad "OEM" power brick by an online seller 6 months ago. It was 1.5 times as big and heavy as the *real* OEM version and power plug does not fit as well in the laptops for which it is intended than does the real article. It does, however, supply the right voltage and parity, and I have used it.

When I called the online seller (whose name I forget) their tech support guy INSISTED that "OEM" means something made to the same specs as the real item but a copy version. In fact, the term generally means a product that is MADE FOR the manufacturer under contract by a supplier, to the Manufacturer's specs, and labelled with the Manufacturer's name. Such an item is then sold by the manufacturer, or through his distribution system. This would include, for example, parts contained within a laptop when the laptop is sold by the mfr. through normal distribution channels.

But nowadays, the term is essentially meaningless since it is misused about as much as it is used correctly.

Is this a laptop drive? will it fit in a Z61M?

sickity wrote:Is this a laptop drive? will it fit in a Z61M?

Yes and yes. A 160GB 7200rpm desktop drive would be worth only $35US!

I have found it on the website

http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/marketi ... 7200_2.pdf


Do you ship to canada? is that included in the price? thanks

sickity wrote:I have found it on the website

http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/marketi ... 7200_2.pdf


Do you ship to canada? is that included in the price? thanks

NICE. According to those specs, this would be an 80GB/platter design (still unclear if it is perpendicular recording tech or not). Also, the 160GB version utilizes a 16MB caches (smaller sizes only get 8MB).

This drive should have a SIGNIFICANT performance lead over the Hitachi 7K100 series, which is current laptop performance champ (at 50GB/platter and 8MB cache).

Me wants one.

Hmmm...I didn't think this drive was on the market yet, I guess it got to the OEMs first. And yes, this drive uses perpendicular recording.

So freddy418, is this drive sold yet? $160 shipped sounds like a really good price. (I'm not interested though because I store most of my files on external hard drives and my Dell Dimension desktop, and thus don't need big hard drives for my laptops.)

Quite frankly I want to see a picture of the drive because Seagate just told me these won't be released until the 2nd quarter of this year.

marlinspike wrote:Quite frankly I want to see a picture of the drive because Seagate just told me these won't be released until the 2nd quarter of this year.

Yeah I can't see them for sale anywhere I check..

dibs on this drive, unless it's previously sold.

pm sent.