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I've decided its time I upgraded to the X60 Tablet I've been lusting after, so with a heavy heart I am placing my T41 up for sale.

IBM T41 2379-DJU Thinkpad
14" SXGA (1400x1050)
100gb 7200rpm Hard Drive
768mb RAM
IBM a/b/g Wifi
Bluetooth
DVD/CDRW Optical Drive
Two Batteries (9-cell - 212 cycles/3 hours and a 6-cell - 283 cycles/1.5 hours)
32MB ATI Radeon 9000
A/C Adapter
Recently Replaced Keyboard (replaced Feb)
System Recovery CD's - Windows XP Professional
Excellent condition - Very clean, no scratches, no dead/stuck pixels

Rather than embed all the pics here, please click on the following links to see the pictures;
http://www.iiki.org/pics/t41a.jpg
http://www.iiki.org/pics/t41b.jpg
http://www.iiki.org/pics/t41c.jpg
http://www.iiki.org/pics/t41d.jpg

$600 - (Dropped from $725)

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Sounds like a great machine, however, in today's market you'll need an extreme amount of luck to get anywhere near your asking price...I've just sold a very nice T42 with comparable specs (regular XGA but stronger processor) and 16 months warranty left for give-or-take $600...

And just for the purposes of full disclosure: no, I'm not in a market for a T41 with an SXGA+ screen, or for that fact anything that doesn't have an UXGA one...

But regardless of what I've said, pictures can do miracles, and I'm sure quite a few people on this forum are waiting for them...

All the best.

In addition to pics, you should also specify which graphics card it has, as that makes a big difference in value.

At the $500 range I would be very interested, assuming it has a DirectX 9 capable video card.

asiafish wrote:In addition to pics, you should also specify which graphics card it has, as that makes a big difference in value.

This model has 32MB ATI Radeon 9000.

Are you willing to ship to Europe?

DennyCrane wrote:Are you willing to ship to Europe?

Sorry, at the moment only to the US.

price drop again!

Again, I'm very interested.

You should seriously consider shipping it to Germany...

If so, we almost definetly have a deal.

EDIT: Thanks for the help, Bill. Also, it should be only around 65$ shipping costs via USPS EMS (insured and everything).

aphex wrote:

DennyCrane wrote:Are you willing to ship to Europe?

Sorry, at the moment only to the US.

you really SHOULD ship to europe..
its easy..
only thing is it costs $150 more or less for fedex..
but the USD is cheap, now, so help the balance of payments account and sell to denny crane in germany..

Sorry for being off topic, but just curious, is there any custom tax apply for ship a computer product into Germany?
I heard in Europe they're very strict on this.

Two things;

1) USPS only insures up to $500 for international items

2) Sometimes, an import customs tax is applied - sometimes not

I've had good luck with sales and shipping to Europe.

P.S. Nice machine and specs. Nice price.

underclocker wrote:Two things;

1) USPS only insures up to $500 for international items

2) Sometimes, an import customs tax is applied - sometimes not

I've had good luck with sales and shipping to Europe.

P.S. Nice machine and specs. Nice price.

Well, yeah.

1. Right, but if the price is 600$ like on this machine, I'm willing to take the risk.
2. This is a pure luck thing. Also, this is my risk, because if the customs agency catches the machine, I'm gonne have to pay taxes. If it's marked as a "gift" chances are even less. No risk for the seller involved also.

USPS will insure for more than $500, but for certain countries you'd actually have to provide a bill of sale-gift or not, and the buyer would be charged customs fees, gift or not. I'm not certain, but believe that it would be applied to Germany if the unit values above $300.

If you insure the item, it is more likely to be taxed. Period.

If you don't...that's really up to the buyer to decide whether he wants to take that chance.

I've done it both ways without any issues. Countries in Western Europe have pretty reliable postal systems. Along with fairly knowledgeable customs officers..

Good luck to all.

still available!

I am contemplating shipping to other locations, but I've had bad shipping experiences shipping internationally in the past (I was living in the Netherlands in '02 and England in '05) and would prefer something quick and easy at the moment.

If things change, I will definitely update my post and contact the applicable parties.

In other news, I appreciate the bumps

Hate to tell you, but with your price tag you'll just have to sell to Europe...buyers stateswide, including ones on this forum, expect T41 machines for a lot less than your asking price...a bad combo of timing (eBay) and general drop in prices for all non-core-duo units...apart from the rare and most exceptional ones...

And no, I'm not in the market for any such laptop-just to make that point clear.

what I recently learned about importing from the US to EU:
- you have to pay customs, nor matter if it is a private sale and second-hand used goods. The significant factor is the price you paid for the goods including shipping. In Austria there are 20% import tax (free translation), seems to be a kind of VAT replacement, plus extra customs on items which match one of the customs classes, e.g. factory new goods, I believe. That applies to all goods
with a value above 20,- EUR.
- Exception are gifts, which should really be gifts, otherwise you run the risk to pay a penalty.
- Customs and Post officers are working efficiently together,
- and they are very helpful and friendly when you phone them.
- Recently I received 2 Thinkpads from USA declared as gift, the small inconspicuous box was opened and submitted under import tax, whereby
the big box, shouting Thinkpad in all directions, was declared tax free
and went through. Strange, but real.
- Anyway: After having been advised by customs officers I recommend you to
declare correctly, and pay the 20%, which is still cheap enough in the end,
compared to European prices. (Just had an ugly argument about European price levels with some oversmart teenagers on the German Thinkpad Forum),
If you are lucky, correctly declared goods can go through without extra charges,
as the customs officers hate to be lied at.

Hope that helps.

If you insure the item, it is more likely to be taxed. Period.

If you don't...that's really up to the buyer to decide whether he wants to take that chance.

I've done it both ways without any issues. Countries in Western Europe have pretty reliable postal systems. Along with fairly knowledgeable customs officers..

Not surprising considering that the German postal system is called DHL.

Aphex, you should ship it to Germany. Even if the 20% have to be paid it's still a good price for Denny Crane.

is this thing still for sale?

Just to drop in my €0.02: with the current exchange rate and Lenovo (and IBM in the past) not having a clue about how to price TPs here, selling to Europeans is IMO a no-brainer. I bought three TPs from the US and CAN in the past on ebay (thinkpadworld and neogeo computers) and even with the shipping and the VAT I was much cheaper off than buying them locally. It seems as if IBM/Lenovo just don't want us to buy these things here

Anyway, here in the Netherlands there are no import tariffs on computers, but you do pay 19% VAT (on the declared value + shipping). AFAIK, Fedex, UPS (and probably DHL) deliver end to end, so they pay the customs themselves and then bill the recipient, while USPS packages are handled by the local mail agent upon arrival and are checked at random by customs.

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