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Zephir · #1 Post by **Zephir** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:14 pm

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Aw common, you just won a X41t on ebay for $550 shipped and charged us this much

If you can reduce the price down to about $580 I would gladly take it off your hand, as I only have this much budget to shop for a portable laptop for college.

wearetheborg · #2 Post by **wearetheborg** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:40 pm

Zephir wrote:Aw common, you just won a X41t on ebay for $550 shipped and charged us this much
If you can reduce the price down to about $580 I would gladly take it off your hand, as I only have this much budget to shop for a portable laptop for college.

How much he bought it for is irrelevant. What matters is the price and the specs now.
If someone recieved a laptop as a gift, you would not expect him to give it away for free would you ?

Zephir · #3 Post by **Zephir** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:51 pm

wearetheborg wrote:
Zephir wrote:Aw common, you just won a X41t on ebay for $550 shipped and charged us this much
If you can reduce the price down to about $580 I would gladly take it off your hand, as I only have this much budget to shop for a portable laptop for college.
How much he bought it for is irrelevant. What matters is the price and the specs now.
If someone recieved a laptop as a gift, you would not expect him to give it away for free would you ?

I wasn't really serious, it's just a joke

But my offer is serious though

ajkula66 · #4 Post by **ajkula66** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:05 pm

I can't speak for the seller, but I'd find it very difficult to consider an offer of $580 towards a machine with the asking price of $750 anything but another joke...and in a bad mood I'm sure I would be using a different term...

But then again, it's me...

Zephir · #5 Post by **Zephir** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:18 pm

ajkula66 wrote:I can't speak for the seller, but I'd find it very difficult to consider an offer of $580 towards a machine with the asking price of $750 anything but another joke...and in a bad mood I'm sure I would be using a different term...

But then again, it's me...

Not everybody has tons of money to buy a laptop, especially a college student like me, who have to do work study to pay for tuition

If he accepts my offer, great! If he doesn't, I'll have to look for another one. I'm just asking him to consider my offer, that's it. No reason to fuss about it.

ajkula66 · #6 Post by **ajkula66** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:46 pm

Zephir wrote:

Not everybody has tons of money to buy a laptop, especially a college student like me, who have to do work study to pay for tuition

I don't think that you've understood my point. There is nothing wrong with being on a budget-most of us are, for a variety of reasons.

However, there are ways of going about it. There are plenty of machines for sale on this forum within what you've stated as your price range. No need for lowballing a nice unit offered by a trusted forum member in extremely good standing. Your whole intro, joking or not, could be very easily seen as "thread-crapping" which is not really a welcomed contribution to this forum...

Please don't take this personally. I'd have the same reaction if it were anyone else. I understand that you're pretty new to the forum and that you may not be familiar with all the buying and selling practices that are common here. Don't take my words as criticism, but as a friendly advice.

All the best.

silo · #7 Post by **silo** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:00 am

ajkula66 wrote:Zephir wrote:

Not everybody has tons of money to buy a laptop, especially a college student like me, who have to do work study to pay for tuition
I don't think that you've understood my point. There is nothing wrong with being on a budget-most of us are, for a variety of reasons.

However, there are ways of going about it. There are plenty of machines for sale on this forum within what you've stated as your price range. No need for lowballing a nice unit offered by a trusted forum member in extremely good standing. Your whole intro, joking or not, could be very easily seen as "thread-crapping" which is not really a welcomed contribution to this forum...

Please don't take this personally. I'd have the same reaction if it were anyone else. I understand that you're pretty new to the forum and that you may not be familiar with all the buying and selling practices that are common here. Don't take my words as criticism, but as a friendly advice.

All the best.

Not my place to make the call, but by my lights the one guy can ask what he wants for the machine, and the other guy can offer what he wants to offer, and also say whatever he wants, within the bounds of propriety and good taste, natch.

Zephir · #8 Post by **Zephir** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:12 am

silo wrote:
ajkula66 wrote:Zephir wrote:
I don't think that you've understood my point. There is nothing wrong with being on a budget-most of us are, for a variety of reasons.

However, there are ways of going about it. There are plenty of machines for sale on this forum within what you've stated as your price range. No need for lowballing a nice unit offered by a trusted forum member in extremely good standing. Your whole intro, joking or not, could be very easily seen as "thread-crapping" which is not really a welcomed contribution to this forum...

Please don't take this personally. I'd have the same reaction if it were anyone else. I understand that you're pretty new to the forum and that you may not be familiar with all the buying and selling practices that are common here. Don't take my words as criticism, but as a friendly advice.

All the best.
Not my place to make the call, but by my lights the one guy can ask what he wants for the machine, and the other guy can offer what he wants to offer, and also say whatever he wants, within the bounds of propriety and good taste, natch.

That's my principle, thanks for the support, silo

#9 Post by **KristianJ** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:23 am

Generally though, I'd suggest that the offering and negotiation take place privately. And I'd say it's common sense for all who buy and sell that in the interests of fair play, you do that enquiring in a private message. Experience has shown that when a query on a price or an offer lower than the asking price is made, the thread shoots off on a tangent, which I'm sure is not what the seller desires.

As for what PW has done in buying cheap and selling at a higher price, if I managed to snap up what I considered a bargain, and then onsell it for a higher price that I believed reflected its actual value, I'd by all means do that. The market will determine whether or not there's someone who agrees with my belief.

pianowizard · #10 Post by **pianowizard** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:13 am

Zephir wrote:Aw common, you just won a X41t on ebay for $550 shipped and charged us this much

That X41t didn't come with a digitizer pen or the recovery partition or the recovery discs. I had to spend another $50 to get both.

MODERATORS: Would you please delete this moron's posts?

pianowizard · #11 Post by **pianowizard** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:16 am

silo wrote:Not my place to make the call, but by my lights the one guy can ask what he wants for the machine, and the other guy can offer what he wants to offer, and also say whatever he wants, within the bounds of propriety and good taste, natch.

The problem is I actually paid $601 on this machine, not $550 as that idiot claimed.

MODERATORS: Would you please delete Zephir's posts? No one has upset me as much on this forum. If possible, please delete all posts in this thread except my opening post. Thanks.

qviri · #12 Post by **qviri** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:26 am

pianowizard wrote: as that idiot claimed.

Attack the actions, not the person

wearetheborg · #13 Post by **wearetheborg** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:28 am

Calm down Piano

pianowizard · #14 Post by **pianowizard** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:28 am

qviri wrote:
pianowizard wrote: as that idiot claimed.
Attack the actions, not the person

Such actions can only be done by an idiot.

wearetheborg · #15 Post by **wearetheborg** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:29 am

pianowizard wrote: Such actions can only be done by an idiot.

Regardless, I'm sure name calling is against forum rules.

pianowizard · #16 Post by **pianowizard** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:34 am

I need to sell this laptop before moving to NYC on Sep 29th. This guy's thread crapping might be preventing it from happening. I am paying a lot for rent (a nice bedroom in Manhattan for one month, go figure!) and need this money desperately. How can I not be upset?

wearetheborg · #17 Post by **wearetheborg** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:39 am

pianowizard wrote:I need to sell this laptop before moving to NYC on Sep 29th. This guy's thread crapping might be preventing it from happening. I am paying a lot for rent and need this money desperately. How can I not be upset?

Technically he has not thread crapped. He has not said the laptop is not worth 750. He has just made a lower offer.

#18 Post by **JaneL** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:43 am

I'm not very happy with the tone of this thread's discussion. Name-calling and arguing is not acceptable under any circumstance. Take that sort of behavior off-line immediately.

Having said that, messages in the Marketplace are no different than any other messages posted on thinkpads.com. If you post something, expect to get differing opinions, and be prepared to handle responses in a calm and civil manner. Negotiations and offers should be made privately and not in the public view.

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