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WTB: Thinking about a Thinkpad X31, X41, X60, or X61
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:46 pm
by camdecoster
I am wondering what the going price is for an X60/X61 (not a tablet)? I recently bought a T42, but it's slightly less portable than what I wanted. This is mainly a feeler post to figure out if switching is even feasible. But if you've got a good deal for me, send a PM. Thanks.
EDIT: I added some other potential Thinkpads I'm interested in.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:03 am
by camdecoster
To be more specific, is 600-700 a good price for an X60?
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:08 am
by whizkid
Lenovo's outlet center has an X60 for as low as $766.
Outlet
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:23 pm
by Henrycc
Keep in mind the outlet list is not often updated. I just called and was told there are no remaining laptops from the list. I didn't realize the prices of X60s fell that low. I think I may need to adjust the price of the one I have for sale, or just keep it.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:20 pm
by camdecoster
If it's not feasible to get an X60 or X61, would it be a better idea to get an X31 or X41? Which one would you recommend?
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:10 pm
by Harryc
I'd recommend an X31 over an X41 because the hard drives for the X41 are 1.8" drives which are expensive and have limited capacity (60GB).
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:11 pm
by pianowizard
Have you considered the HP nc2400? IMO, it's better than any of the X series Thinkpads. See
my review of the nc2400.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:15 pm
by Henrycc
I think it's completely feasible to get a X60/61 for under $700, just need to find a desperate enough seller. I believe someone on the forum recently sold a X61s for under $700 recently. I personally like the X40 series, although the 1.8" hard drive really is a negative, but I just use it for word processing and light internet surfing. It really depends on what you are going to use it for.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:48 pm
by camdecoster
The X31 sounds nice. I am worried about the speed seeming slow. Can anyone comment on this? I'm looking to install Xubuntu to give you an idea of my system demands. Would it be a better idea just to fork out the extra money for the X60? Would it be better to try and find an X32? Is 350 reasonable to expect to pay for an X31/X32?
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:56 pm
by Diehard
I think it's completely feasible to get a X60/61 for under $700, just need to find a desperate enough seller. I believe someone on the forum recently sold a X61s for under $700 recently. I personally like the X40 series, although the 1.8" hard drive really is a negative, but I just use it for word processing and light internet surfing. It really depends on what you are going to use it for.
It's X60s! Dude. X61s for under 700$? You are just kidding! All guys would fight to get it.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:18 pm
by pianowizard
camdecoster wrote:The X31 sounds nice.
The X31 and X32 are the heaviest among the non-tablet X series.
Diehard wrote:It's X60s! Dude. X61s for under 700$? You are just kidding! All guys would fight to get it.
This guy is selling an UltraLight X60s with 100GB 7200rpm and warranty for $600.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:34 pm
by Diehard
But it was X60s
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:37 pm
by pianowizard
Diehard wrote:But it was X60s
If an X60s can be had for $600, then it's possible to find an X61s for $700.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:58 pm
by Harryc
camdecoster wrote:The X31 sounds nice. I am worried about the speed seeming slow. Can anyone comment on this? I'm looking to install Xubuntu to give you an idea of my system demands.
If all you want to do is run is Xubuntu, then even an X31 is overkill. Xubuntu would fly on an 1.6GHz or 1.7GHz X31 with 1 GB of RAM. I wouldn't pay over $400 for the basic machine including an X3 media slice. There are several on EBay for just that price. PM me if you want a recommended seller. Oh, and if you get that machine, I can recommend a seller for an internal Atheros mPCI wifi card for it as well (much better for Linux over the standard Intel card).
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:01 pm
by Henrycc
My mistake, it was an X60s not X61s. Although there really isn't much difference there.
Another factor in purchasing an X60/X61 would be the price of memory. X31 or X40 uses older more expensive memory. If you factor in everything, an X60 with warranty that is well equipped may be more expensive, but serve you longer than a used X31 or X40 without warranty.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:08 pm
by syedj
Harryc wrote:camdecoster wrote:The X31 sounds nice. I am worried about the speed seeming slow. Can anyone comment on this? I'm looking to install Xubuntu to give you an idea of my system demands.
If all you want to do is run is Xubuntu, then even an X31 is overkill. Xubuntu would fly on an 1.6GHz or 1.7GHz X31 with 1 GB of RAM. I wouldn't pay over $400 for the basic machine including an X3 media slice. There are several on EBay for just that price. PM me if you want a recommended seller. Oh, and if you get that machine, I can recommend a seller for an internal Atheros mPCI wifi card for it as well (much better for Linux over the standard Intel card).
Bleh! 1.6Ghz or 1.7GHz X31?

I am typing this on a little slower X31 (see my sig) while running Kubuntu 7.10 and the X31 rocks. I have used an X60 in the past and I think I like the X31 much better for everyday use light weight laptop. Everything worked out of the box, including but not limited to sound card, wireless and etc. I used an USB optical drive to install the OS and it worked flawlessly.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:17 pm
by Harryc
syedj wrote:
Bleh! 1.6Ghz or 1.7GHz X31?
What does Bleh! mean on your planet?

If someone is interested in a particular model I always recommend toward the top end to allow for growth. Let's assume that the OP isn't going to run Xubuntu or Ubuntu forever shall we? Hell, you could easily run Vista basic on one with 2GB RAM.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:24 pm
by syedj
Harryc wrote:syedj wrote:
Bleh! 1.6Ghz or 1.7GHz X31?
What does Bleh! mean on your planet? If someone is interested in a particular model I always recommend toward the top end to allow for growth. Let's assume that the OP isn't going to run Xubuntu or Ubuntu forever shall we? Hell, you could easily run Vista basic on one.
Sorry Harry, I didn't mean to make fun of anyone. I was just making a point that even 1.3GHz is more than plenty to run Linux. If I offended you or anyone else I apologize.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:26 pm
by Harryc
syedj wrote:
Sorry Harry, I didn't mean to make fun of anyone. I was just making a point that even 1.3GHz is more than plenty to run Linux. If I offended you or anyone else I apologize.
Oh Dam, now I feel bad. I inserted one of those smiley thing-a-ma-jigs too late

. Not a problem it was a poor joke.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:44 pm
by syedj
Harryc wrote:syedj wrote:
Sorry Harry, I didn't mean to make fun of anyone. I was just making a point that even 1.3GHz is more than plenty to run Linux. If I offended you or anyone else I apologize.
Oh Dam, now I feel bad. I inserted one of those smiley thing-a-ma-jigs too late

. Not a problem it was a poor joke.
No worries, I should have taken it a bit lightly myself

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:51 pm
by Harryc
LOL...I run Xubuntu on my T21, that's the right machine for the job

. Cheers syedj.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:40 pm
by dc_slim
I'll put in another good word for an X31. With a 5400 or 7200 rpm HD, you'll find it very zippy, whether you're using Linux or XP. I can't say enough good things about these machines. I've had an X30 and two X31s now, and they've all been very durable and very reliable. And the size can't be beat. I suppose that there's something to be gained by getting an X40/41 or X60s/61s, but, really . . . it's merely half a pound. The X31 is already light enough as it is, IMHO.
Dan
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:02 am
by dmar
camdecoster,
I'm running Gutsy 7.10 on both my x31 and x60s, and they're both fine. Everything ran out of the box, with exception of the Middle Mouse Button, and Thinkpad specific navigation keys (browser back/forward, and the AccessIBM/Thinkvantage key).
On a side note, I was actually planning on selling my seldom used x60s, but that was until someone posted their rig for $600. Boy, talk about lost opportunity, or being on the wrong end of a blowout. I guess I'll just hang onto it at this rate.
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:16 am
by Henrycc
Dmar,
I'm in the same boat. I am trying to sell my extremely good condition X60 with ultrabase, but no bites at all. I didn't realize the bottom dropped out of Lenovo so quickly. I am just wondering what condition the X60s that sold was, I would love to hear from the buyer.
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:18 am
by dc_slim
Dmar, don't hesitate to let us know if you want to part with your X60s. Some of us would be willing to pay more than $600 for one of those babies. One aberrant sale doesn't necessarily change the whole market.
Guys
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:15 pm
by scosgt1
Just keep in mind that there is a price difference between new and used. The instant the seal on the box is broken the unit is used.
I have been happily selling X60's with UltraBase brand new for $1150 or so. There is plenty of market out there.
Used is always another story. You have to check the remaining warranty, which can be short or nothing as some machines are now 1 year from the factory. You also have to look at specs. Just saying "I can find an X60 for $600" does not mean anything. And the one that was offered here at that price was never sold, so one can not assume that the market is now made because of that one unit.