Thinkpad S30 For Sale, PIII 600MHz, 256MB, 120GB, 802.11b
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:39 am
I am very very hesitant to post this, because I really love my S30, but I think it's time to part. This thing is a classic, and getting harder to find. Problem is, I have no clue what it is worth but the forum rules clearly say that I must supply a price. I bought mine for $400 less than 3 years ago, and then bought the extended battery and an AC adapter for it. It came with a 30GB hard drive, but I've upgraded it to a 120GB drive that is faster and quieter (uses less power too). So while I did spend almost $500 on it, I do realize that it is now a decade old, netbooks have appeared on the scene (The S30 is essentially a netbook before the netbook phrase existed.), and it is not in the best condition. I would part with my S30, two batteries (one normal, one extended), and new compatible Lenovo AC adapter (which I bought specifically for this unit) for $300 plus shipping. Given what I paid and it's rarity, I think that is fair. The screen resolution (1024x768) and keyboard still knock out any netbook out there, and you get a trackpoint instead of a touchpad. Plus cool japanese keys! Links to high resolution pictures at the end.
A few issues however. When I bought my S30 (on eBay), the lid was very scratched, it wasn't in the best condition. It was the Matte black unit. I carefully followed the lead of some other users here, disassembled my unit and primed and painted the lid glossy black, many coats of Krylon. I did an excellent job (I use spraypaint all the time as a hobbyist.) but it isn't PERFECT. You can see in the pictures. I bought a new sticker to go on top and the thing looks gorgeous, it just pops out at you. But there are a few defects on the paint if you look closely enough. Plus, I don't really like to travel around with my S30 as I don't know how delicate the paint is. Krylon is good stuff, and I follow the directions to the letter, it should be hardened and cured just right. But I don't know if it would scratch off if abused. I use it as a shelf piece now, people that see it ask me what it is and admire it, but I don't like to just toss it in a bag and run with it. It's too special to do that, I feel.
The CF slot is right under the PCMCIA slot. It includes the plastic cover for the PCMCIA slot, but the original unit had a little plastic panel that would spring load out to cover the CF slot as well. This was falling off when I got it, as it is very delicate. I still have this piece, but not the micro spring that used to hold it in place.
The wrist wrests are a bit worn, and you can actually see where the factory stickers were. Some of the lettering has worn through, the previous owner must have been a crazy typist. The space bar sometimes makes a click when you press it. I've considered trying to get a replacement board to make it perfect, but I don't know where to go for that. Don't get me wrong, it feels like a dream to type on this thing compared with most netbooks out there, but it's almost a decade old. I kind of want to keep it and use it as a network admin box, but the S30 came with 802.11b wifi instead of ethernet. I don't think a model was sold that has both. It has a modem, sound, the cf and pcmcia cards, and 2 usb ports, but the firewire and ethernet ports are covered up.
The batteries hold a good charge, but are not new. I would get around 4 hours on it, but I forget if that was the normal or extended battery. That was with everything off, dim screen. I *think* it was with the normal battery, but I'm not going to do an endurance test now just to see. Lets just say that both batteries are good, but not new.
When I got the unit, the administrator password in BIOS was set. The user password is not. Pressing F12 lets you boot from other media, so I've never needed the admin password. I know there is a bit of a complex process one can do to recover the admin password but I've never needed to go through with it. I've updated it to the latest BIOS, which wasn't easy, as I had to hunt it down on the Japanese IBM page, and then dig through a Japanese CGA BIOS upgrade process. But it's up to date and you'll never have to go through that again. The unit can boot from USB CD/DVD drives, and once booted from a USB flash drive. I think you have to do something weird on the USB flash drive to make it emulate a CD to do so, but I just use a real CD-ROM to install an OS.
I bought the unit without a Windows sticker or OS installed, and that is how I am selling it. I've zero'ed the Hard Drive, you will have to partition/format it. (Windows installer should do that.) Windows XP should work on this, but I never used it. I believe it originally came with Windows ME. I used this with different versions of Linux. I should mention that the unit is so rare, that while Linux supports the Lynx EM+ video chipset, it doesn't seem to play nice with those in IBM's, including the 240, the S30/31, or one other series (i series?). There seems to be some way to get it to work but it seemed like more effort than I wanted to put in. I would use it with framebuffer console, and use X with the fbdev device driver, or just use it in terminal mode. As I mentioned, I had this for its rarity, and once the netbooks started to really come out I put this up on display.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. I will make certain that every one is answered. Normally I sell things on eBay, but I thought that this item could be better appreciated here. I could send you to my eBay account (user id: tocher), which has 100% feedback over the past decade. Thank you very much.
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A few issues however. When I bought my S30 (on eBay), the lid was very scratched, it wasn't in the best condition. It was the Matte black unit. I carefully followed the lead of some other users here, disassembled my unit and primed and painted the lid glossy black, many coats of Krylon. I did an excellent job (I use spraypaint all the time as a hobbyist.) but it isn't PERFECT. You can see in the pictures. I bought a new sticker to go on top and the thing looks gorgeous, it just pops out at you. But there are a few defects on the paint if you look closely enough. Plus, I don't really like to travel around with my S30 as I don't know how delicate the paint is. Krylon is good stuff, and I follow the directions to the letter, it should be hardened and cured just right. But I don't know if it would scratch off if abused. I use it as a shelf piece now, people that see it ask me what it is and admire it, but I don't like to just toss it in a bag and run with it. It's too special to do that, I feel.
The CF slot is right under the PCMCIA slot. It includes the plastic cover for the PCMCIA slot, but the original unit had a little plastic panel that would spring load out to cover the CF slot as well. This was falling off when I got it, as it is very delicate. I still have this piece, but not the micro spring that used to hold it in place.
The wrist wrests are a bit worn, and you can actually see where the factory stickers were. Some of the lettering has worn through, the previous owner must have been a crazy typist. The space bar sometimes makes a click when you press it. I've considered trying to get a replacement board to make it perfect, but I don't know where to go for that. Don't get me wrong, it feels like a dream to type on this thing compared with most netbooks out there, but it's almost a decade old. I kind of want to keep it and use it as a network admin box, but the S30 came with 802.11b wifi instead of ethernet. I don't think a model was sold that has both. It has a modem, sound, the cf and pcmcia cards, and 2 usb ports, but the firewire and ethernet ports are covered up.
The batteries hold a good charge, but are not new. I would get around 4 hours on it, but I forget if that was the normal or extended battery. That was with everything off, dim screen. I *think* it was with the normal battery, but I'm not going to do an endurance test now just to see. Lets just say that both batteries are good, but not new.
When I got the unit, the administrator password in BIOS was set. The user password is not. Pressing F12 lets you boot from other media, so I've never needed the admin password. I know there is a bit of a complex process one can do to recover the admin password but I've never needed to go through with it. I've updated it to the latest BIOS, which wasn't easy, as I had to hunt it down on the Japanese IBM page, and then dig through a Japanese CGA BIOS upgrade process. But it's up to date and you'll never have to go through that again. The unit can boot from USB CD/DVD drives, and once booted from a USB flash drive. I think you have to do something weird on the USB flash drive to make it emulate a CD to do so, but I just use a real CD-ROM to install an OS.
I bought the unit without a Windows sticker or OS installed, and that is how I am selling it. I've zero'ed the Hard Drive, you will have to partition/format it. (Windows installer should do that.) Windows XP should work on this, but I never used it. I believe it originally came with Windows ME. I used this with different versions of Linux. I should mention that the unit is so rare, that while Linux supports the Lynx EM+ video chipset, it doesn't seem to play nice with those in IBM's, including the 240, the S30/31, or one other series (i series?). There seems to be some way to get it to work but it seemed like more effort than I wanted to put in. I would use it with framebuffer console, and use X with the fbdev device driver, or just use it in terminal mode. As I mentioned, I had this for its rarity, and once the netbooks started to really come out I put this up on display.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. I will make certain that every one is answered. Normally I sell things on eBay, but I thought that this item could be better appreciated here. I could send you to my eBay account (user id: tocher), which has 100% feedback over the past decade. Thank you very much.
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