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Stuck at X220, T420s,W520 need advice on upgrade

#1 Post by mpcook » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:39 pm

I have some X220's, a T420, a T420s (daily driver now), a couple of W520's and now find I need a faster more capable laptop for my work. I see some comments about not upgradable and poor QC on newer ThinkPads. I am looking for fast, light and powerful so need a capable i7, 16GB ram, the usual ports, possibly dedicated graphics, good screen (touch would be nice) and 500GB+ SSD with a slot for another SSD if possible. Most of my --20 gen ThinkPads have two SSD's installed.

In the olden times, I would find a lower spec laptop with the processor I want, and upgrade ram and drive. (After all, I have a bunch of parts laying around). Are any newer models of the X1 or T470s or higher upgradable, or will I have to buy exactly what I need?

Any opinions on the X1 vs. T470s or T480s? Yoga vs. Carbon?

Thanks for help! I am at the mercy of my software vendor's better/faster/power-hungry programs and I'm looking at spending some serious cash for a major upgrade.
Current: 2 x W520 ET, 2 x X220 i7, T420, X230 i5, T420s, MacbookPro, Dell Venue 11 Pro, Dell XPS 8930, X1 Yoga 3GEN
Past: IBM5150-8088 500 600E 600X T20 T21 5xT23 X30 3xX31 X32 T40 T42 3xT43 T43p SL510 T60p X60T X60s T61 2xT400 T410si T400s T500-3.06GHz X200 X201 X220i5 X220i7 2xT420s

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Re: Stuck at X220, T420s,W520 need advice on upgrade

#2 Post by Screamer » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:47 am

mpcook wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:39 pm
need a capable i7
A capable Core i7? Do you mean a quad-core Core i7, or a hexa-core Core i7?
mpcook wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:39 pm
16GB ram
16GB of DDR3 or DDR4 RAM? Some might need the extra memory bandwidth, but do you need that?
mpcook wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:39 pm
the usual ports
If you don't mind me asking, what are the 'usual ports' that you would need?
mpcook wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:39 pm
possibly dedicated graphics, good screen (touch would be nice) and 500GB+ SSD with a slot for another SSD if possible. Most of my --20 gen ThinkPads have two SSD's installed.
Vague requirements aside, I think I could recommend you some laptops with these requirements:

[1] Clevo P640RE (soldered processor, 1 M.2 2280 slot, 1 2.5" SATA slot)
[2] Clevo P640RF (soldered processor, 1 M.2 2280 slot, 1 2.5" SATA slot)
[3] Clevo N350DW (socketed processor, 1 M.2 2280 slot, 1 2.5" SATA slot)
[4] Clevo N950TP6 (socketed processor, 2 M.2 2280 slots, 1 2.5" SATA slot)
[5] Clevo P650SE (soldered processor, 2 M.2 2280 slots, 1 2.5" SATA slot)
[6] Clevo P650HS-G (soldered processor, 2 M.2 2280 slots, 2 2.5" SATA slots)

You can't have a laptop that is very fast and very light at the same time, so you would have to make some compromises.
mpcook wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:39 pm
Are any newer models of the X1 or T470s or higher upgradable, or will I have to buy exactly what I need?
How upgradable would you prefer it to be? Most of them should have an M.2 slot that can be used for an SSD upgrade, but is that considered upgradable to you?

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Re: Stuck at X220, T420s,W520 need advice on upgrade

#3 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:37 am

The last properly upgradable Thinkpad was the T440p.
- quadcore CPU (all with HD 4600 iGPU), some have a TDP of 37W, others 47W
- dGPU optional (nVidia GT730M)
- 16GB RAM
- IPS FHD
- backlit keyboard
- 2.5" drivebay for main SSD/HDD #1
- Ultrabay with caddy can be used for SSD/HDD #2
- WWAN slot can be used for M.2 SSD #3
- 7260-AC wifi with BT4.0
- must: replace clunkpad with T450 touchpad+buttons
Lovely day for a Guinness! (the Real Black Stuff). And pigs CAN fly!

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Re: Stuck at X220, T420s,W520 need advice on upgrade

#4 Post by mpcook » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:47 am

Screamer wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:47 am
mpcook wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:39 pm
need a capable i7
A capable Core i7? Do you mean a quad-core Core i7, or a hexa-core Core i7?
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You can't have a laptop that is very fast and very light at the same time, so you would have to make some compromises.
mpcook wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:39 pm
Are any newer models of the X1 or T470s or higher upgradable, or will I have to buy exactly what I need?
How upgradable would you prefer it to be? Most of them should have an M.2 slot that can be used for an SSD upgrade, but is that considered upgradable to you?
Thanks for the clarifications. Yes, Quadcore would be fine. Any type of ram (16GB) in a quadcore i7 would be fine. A couple of USB 3, ethernet, SD card slot, headphone jack, and a video out would be enough for my needs. Also, of course, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Webcam. I would prefer two slots for adding SSD but if I can get one with 1TB SSD that would do. Yes, an i7 with 16GB ram and an SSD can be light and fast - 4lb or less.
Current: 2 x W520 ET, 2 x X220 i7, T420, X230 i5, T420s, MacbookPro, Dell Venue 11 Pro, Dell XPS 8930, X1 Yoga 3GEN
Past: IBM5150-8088 500 600E 600X T20 T21 5xT23 X30 3xX31 X32 T40 T42 3xT43 T43p SL510 T60p X60T X60s T61 2xT400 T410si T400s T500-3.06GHz X200 X201 X220i5 X220i7 2xT420s

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Re: Stuck at X220, T420s,W520 need advice on upgrade

#5 Post by Screamer » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:57 am

No problem, and here are 3 laptops that suits your needs:
Aorus X3 Plus v7
MSI GS43VR 6RE Phantom Pro
Gigabyte P34W v5

Keep in mind that the X3 Plus v7 has two M.2 2280 slots, but the GS43VR 6RE Phantom Pro and the P34W v5 has only one M.2 2280 slot and a 2.5" SATA slot.

There aren't a lot of upgradable laptops that I can recommend you with a strict 4-pound weight limit, unfortunately. These are the best choices that I can find.

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Re: Stuck at X220, T420s,W520 need advice on upgrade

#6 Post by mpcook » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:56 pm

Well, I did some research and decided to get an X1 - Yoga 3rd Gen, 16GB RAM (soldered) but the drive is upgradable. The convertible aspect is perfect for my use of this for work so I'm quite pleased with it. Is it an X1? Is it a Yoga? I guess both.
Current: 2 x W520 ET, 2 x X220 i7, T420, X230 i5, T420s, MacbookPro, Dell Venue 11 Pro, Dell XPS 8930, X1 Yoga 3GEN
Past: IBM5150-8088 500 600E 600X T20 T21 5xT23 X30 3xX31 X32 T40 T42 3xT43 T43p SL510 T60p X60T X60s T61 2xT400 T410si T400s T500-3.06GHz X200 X201 X220i5 X220i7 2xT420s

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