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2021 Thinkpads

#1 Post by amardeep » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:54 am

Rumours and initial discussion of new 2021 Thinkpads.

What's coming out in 2021 ? Currently X1 Nano's are making their way into the real world, there was a rumour of 16:10 aspect ratio screens on the next X1 Carbon, an X1 Titanium is due sometime, and that's about all I know of currently.

Previous year's threads :
Lenovo CES 2020
Lenovo CES 2019
Lenovo CES 2018

It doesn't seem like all, or even most, announcements for the year happen all together at CES any more, so a change in thread title seemed appropriate.

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Re: 2021 Thinkpads

#2 Post by Ibthink » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:32 am

There is also the ThinkPad X12 that has yet to be released, which looks like an indirect successor to the discontinued X1 Tablet.

As for the non-X1 models, I think we can expect a lot of new designs next year. Most of the T/X series has been using the same design for at least two generations now and Lenovo usually redesigns them after 2-3 gens. Same goes for the X1 Extreme / P1 - if Lenovo would move to 16:10 on this one as well to compete with the Dell XPS 15, it could certainly be a very interesting year for ThinkPads.
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Re: 2021 Thinkpads

#3 Post by bgx » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:12 am

10 days to CES and still no more leaks?
What about the X1 yoga titanium in 3:2? This one looked very promising, but we still have no news.

Will thinkpads keep the 2USB-C+ 2USBA +full size Hdmi which make them both easy to use today and future proof (X1 Nano goes against that with only USB C, but one not so tiny model, one can hope they keep usb A)?

Happy new year to all!

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#4 Post by Ibthink » Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:35 am

Most press is probably already been briefed and under NDA, so I wouldn't expect any leaks before CES. But it won't take long now, so have a little bit of patience. :)
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Re: 2021 Thinkpads

#5 Post by amardeep » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:21 pm

Lenovo X1 Titanium Yoga coming-soon page.

X1 Titanium Yoga : 13.5" 2K (2256 x 1504), up to 16GB RAM, Intel Iris X graphics, 11.5mm x 297.5mm x 232.7mm, ~1.2kg, 2 x USB 4 Type-C with Thunderbolt, Headphone / Mic socket, Haptic-feedback TrackPad.

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#6 Post by bgx » Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:05 pm

almost perfect...but 2 USB C only? no pen? wtf!

and 3:2 but with these big vertical bezel? wrong rendering?

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#7 Post by bgx » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:47 am

thanks to Reddit and russia, we know more about X1 2021:

short story: 16:10 slim bezel and 32GB
Dont know about port yet

X1carbon9
https://htstatic.imgsmail.ru/pic_image/ ... 6/1954031/

X1yoga6
https://htstatic.imgsmail.ru/pic_image/ ... 5/1954032/

X12 convertible
https://htstatic.imgsmail.ru/pic_image/ ... 9/1954033/

So a step in good direction. Sad that yoga is not 3:2 :/

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Re: 2021 Thinkpads

#8 Post by amardeep » Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:03 am

It's a small complaint, but ... I actually liked the revised X1 logo (last year ?) where everything was together in one corner, didn't know it was in preparation to stick an additional lenovo logo in the opposite corner. Come on Lenovo, leave it clean and minimal !

Regarding the X1C, I wonder if they've reduced key travel again, thereby eliminating one of the few remaining USPs. The 16:10 display is obviously a good change. Also wonder if the 32GB RAM option will be vapour-ware or readily available (and at what cost), but potentially another plus point for those who need it.

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Re: 2021 Thinkpads

#9 Post by bgx » Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:56 am

Ok, so i checked, and X1 Titanium is 1,15cm wide, while X1yoga5 is 1,52cm wide.

I guess you cant go much thinner than 1,52cm thick with usb and hdmi (at least at the thickest).
So i undersatnd why they removed it.

However, using a X1 yoga4 to take notes (after a X1yoga1) on pdf document quite frequently i can say that:
It is not the best form factor for that, a tablet would be better, but it is quite usable.

I dont think shoving a 0,37cm is going to change that by much. that would only maginaly improve things. Large tablet would still be better for that.
Going to this kind of machine means you use it mostly as laptop, and sometimes to take notes, and removing USB A is too much a burden for what it worth.

If you want to mainly take notes and sometimes as laptop, the new X12 would be the way to go.

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Re: 2021 Thinkpads

#10 Post by jdk » Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:07 pm

16:10 has officially arrived. Party like it's 2008 again!

But ... am I reading this right ... no HiDPI options? Limited to 1920x1200? I guess ... party like it's 2008 again.
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Re: 2021 Thinkpads

#11 Post by amardeep » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:21 pm

Not sure what you're reading.

X1C G9 Lenovo web-page, and X1C G9 notebookcheck.net web-page, (16:10 1920x1200 or 3840x2400 pixel display, up to 32GB RAM, 2xUSB-C, 2xUSB-A, headphone/mic, HDMI, 14.9mm x 314.5mm x 221.6mm).
X1 Yoga G6 Lenovo web-page.
X12 Detatchable Lenovo web-page.

Regarding the X1C, from the notebookcheck web-page : 2xUSB-C, 2xUSB-A, headphone/mic, HDMI, but side-docking and mini-Ethernet removed, power button above keyboard, two of four speakers to sides of keyboard, wider touchpad, changed hinge and exhaust design, up to 32 GB RAM, 5G available, 57Wh batteries up from 50Wh, keyboard travel down to 1.35mm.

Some good positives, but also ... do such small fractions of a mm matter that much that the keyboard must reduce travel :-(

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#12 Post by jdk » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:57 pm

amardeep wrote:Not sure what you're reading.

X1C G9 Lenovo web-page, and X1C G9 notebookcheck.net web-page, (16:10 1920x1200 or 3840x2400 pixel display, up to 32GB RAM, 2xUSB-C, 2xUSB-A, headphone/mic, HDMI, 14.9mm x 314.5mm x 221.6mm).
X1 Yoga G6 Lenovo web-page.
X12 Detatchable Lenovo web-page.

Regarding the X1C, from the notebookcheck web-page : 2xUSB-C, 2xUSB-A, headphone/mic, HDMI, but side-docking and mini-Ethernet removed, power button above keyboard, two of four speakers to sides of keyboard, wider touchpad, changed hinge and exhaust design, up to 32 GB RAM, 5G available, 57Wh batteries up from 50Wh, keyboard travel down to 1.35mm.

Some good positives, but also ... do such small fractions of a mm matter that much that the keyboard must reduce travel :-(
Wow, thanks! Excellent news! I only saw 1920x1200 in the specs on Notebook review.

This is a huge step in the right direction. The x1c might be my first new ThinkPad in several years. Just gotta wait for the dBrand skins to catch up so that it doesn’t look like a greasy mess after five minutes of use.
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Re: 2021 Thinkpads

#13 Post by amardeep » Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:11 pm

Ah, OK. I want an X1 Classic - one of the new 16:10 X1's with a T25 keyboard, I don't mind it being slightly thicker, as long as the other dimensions don't grow. I think a supersonic pig just flew over.

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#14 Post by Puppy » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:33 pm

The X1 C9 is interesting, it seems as the stupid 16:9 aspect ratio is finally recognized as unwanted one. Now please fix the keyboard layout :-)
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