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Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#1 Post by RealBlackStuff » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:39 am

Finally!
The reason why Google's Chrome floats your boat bloats your -pad!
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#2 Post by MikalE » Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:04 pm

Location of cache files for future reference:

C:\Users\<user-name>\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Code Cache\Js

I'm going to do this when I get home from work later this afternoon.
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#3 Post by MikalE » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:09 pm

There are only 13 files in the Js folder each 1KB in size. Where are these thousands of files I'm supposed to be seeing???

When I backup to the Code Cache there is nothing.
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#4 Post by cadillacmike68 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:02 pm

I refuse to use chrome. Boss lady uses it and complains of slowdowns occasionally.
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#5 Post by Halian » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:31 am

I'm of the firmly held opinion that Google Chrome is one of the largest mistakes ever made. It was responsible for killing off my favorite browser (Opera 9-12) and is currently chipping away at the only viable alternative in Mozilla Firefox.
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#6 Post by dr_st » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:41 am

Halian wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:31 am
I'm of the firmly held opinion that Google Chrome is one of the largest mistakes ever made.
Mistakes? From whose point of view? It gave Google a huge control over web standards and tons of easily accessible customer's personal data, both of which made them a ton of money. Apparently it gave many users something they had wanted, otherwise it would not have gained such a market share.
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#7 Post by Halian » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:48 am

dr_st wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:41 am
Halian wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:31 am
I'm of the firmly held opinion that Google Chrome is one of the largest mistakes ever made.
Mistakes? From whose point of view? It gave Google a huge control over web standards and tons of easily accessible customer's personal data, both of which made them a ton of money. Apparently it gave many users something they had wanted, otherwise it would not have gained such a market share.
Per your own reply, the mistake is giving so much power to one company.
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#8 Post by cadillacmike68 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:54 pm

You don't have to use it. You also don't have to use google itself or gmail.

If you do use it then Clear ALL cookies, etc Daily. with something like ccleaner.
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#9 Post by Halian » Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:20 am

cadillacmike68 wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:54 pm
You also don't have to use google itself
That's kinda unavoidable, especially since reCAPTCHA is a Google product.
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#10 Post by cadillacmike68 » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:11 am

Halian wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:20 am
cadillacmike68 wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:54 pm
You also don't have to use google itself
That's kinda unavoidable, especially since reCAPTCHA is a Google product.
Well, then I refer you to my 2nd sentence. Clear ALL cookies daily, or even more often if necessary with ccleaner or equivalent.
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#11 Post by dr_st » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:35 am

cadillacmike68 wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:11 am
Well, then I refer you to my 2nd sentence. Clear ALL cookies daily, or even more often if necessary with ccleaner or equivalent.
I'm logged in anywhere between 10 to 20 webforums + mail accounts + personal websites on my computers. Should I still clear cookies daily?
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#12 Post by cadillacmike68 » Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:13 pm

dr_st wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:35 am
cadillacmike68 wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:11 am
Well, then I refer you to my 2nd sentence. Clear ALL cookies daily, or even more often if necessary with ccleaner or equivalent.
I'm logged in anywhere between 10 to 20 webforums + mail accounts + personal websites on my computers. Should I still clear cookies daily?
You can save logins in Firefox, id & pw. I won't save a login in either internet extorter or chrome, only Firefox. You can also designate specific cookies to be "saved" in ccleaner, and it also has an intelligent scan to not clear cookies where you have specifically noted the site to "remember you" or "keep you logged in". With those two options I can clear everything else in a few seconds and keep my saved logins and "remembered" cookies. This site, the CLC sites, and some others have other saved logins in Firefox and / or designated to be saved in ccleaner. You would be amazed at what cookies ccleaner will show you are lurking on you system. Ccleaner can be set for other browsers as well.

You have to go through the cookie list one time in ccleaner and designate the ones you want to save. After that it remembers those.

Once in a while it sneaks in an unwanted site to the "saved" list, like live.com which I never use, but sometimes gets stuffed in from a ms web site. I just scan the list and remove any unwanted ones.
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#13 Post by crashnburn » Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:14 pm

dr_st wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:35 am
cadillacmike68 wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:11 am
Well, then I refer you to my 2nd sentence. Clear ALL cookies daily, or even more often if necessary with ccleaner or equivalent.
I'm logged in anywhere between 10 to 20 webforums + mail accounts + personal websites on my computers. Should I still clear cookies daily?
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#14 Post by w0qj » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:16 pm

So should we get the ccleaner pro (payware), or the new ccleaner browser?
Can we use just the ccleaner browser to do what you have described below?

www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/browser
cadillacmike68 wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:13 pm
dr_st wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:35 am
I'm logged in anywhere between 10 to 20 webforums + mail accounts + personal websites on my computers. Should I still clear cookies daily?
You can save logins in Firefox, id & pw. I won't save a login in either internet extorter or chrome, only Firefox. You can also designate specific cookies to be "saved" in ccleaner, and it also has an intelligent scan to not clear cookies where you have specifically noted the site to "remember you" or "keep you logged in". With those two options I can clear everything else in a few seconds and keep my saved logins and "remembered" cookies. This site, the CLC sites, and some others have other saved logins in Firefox and / or designated to be saved in ccleaner. You would be amazed at what cookies ccleaner will show you are lurking on you system. Ccleaner can be set for other browsers as well.

You have to go through the cookie list one time in ccleaner and designate the ones you want to save. After that it remembers those.

Once in a while it sneaks in an unwanted site to the "saved" list, like live.com which I never use, but sometimes gets stuffed in from a ms web site. I just scan the list and remove any unwanted ones.
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#15 Post by cadillacmike68 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:43 pm

I use plain ccleaner and I Do Not update it. no "upgraded / payware" version.

My version is 5.17.5590.
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#16 Post by ajkula66 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:07 pm

cadillacmike68 wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:43 pm

My version is 5.17.5590.
I'm on 3.24 and it works fine for my needs... :D
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#17 Post by TRS-80 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:22 pm

CCleaner? What is this? 1999? :lol:

As far as cookies, there are plug-ins (for Firefox I am sure, no idea about Chrome[-ium]) as I don't use that) which will remove them automatically per your settings (upon closing of tab or browser, or some time, etc.). I am using Cookie AutoDelete for example.

Of course that is just one of many attack / privacy leaking surfaces. JavaScript being another big one, unfortunately an ever growing portion of "modern" websites will not even load without it any more. I use uBlock Origin and I can recommend that even to non-technical people. Of course, investing a little time in learning some of its more advanced functionality will pay bigger dividends. I actually eventually got to the point of adding uMatrix in addition (but remember to walk before you run). There are some more (in addition to some internal about:config settings), but those are the main ones. For those who are interested, there is luckily a lot of information about this around the web. But you will need to do some research (this is where most people fail).

I don't know how to say this without sounding bleak, so I am just going to say it. I have been following these sorts of things for quite a long time, and the situation with the "modern web" has gotten quite out of hand. Web browsers are so complicated nowadays as to be almost complete operating systems in their own right. I think it's telling that huge corps with lots of resources like Google, Microsoft, et. al. have decided to pool resources and develop a single browser engine between all of them, rather than each going it alone (like they used to). Which leaves Firefox / Mozilla. I am still hanging in there, but only because there still are no real, viable alternatives IMO (and believe me, I keep looking). Unfortunately our heroes are competition to Google in name only at this point, deriving almost all of their operating income from the financial sponsorship of their so called "competitor." Which in reality is just a way to keep them impotent / ineffective (not that they need much help it seems these last years) whilst allowing Google to avoid anti-trust concerns relatively cheaply (for them). It's all quite a mess I'm afraid, but I calls em like I sees em.

Above mess is why I have seriously become interested in what is coming to be known as the "small web." Protocols like Gemini (new) and Gopher (old) and various F/LOSS and de-centralized alternatives like PeerTube and many, many others. I also self-host a lot of my own services. Since I am doing that anyway, I offer them also to close friends and family, but there are very few takers. It's sad, really. Therefore in the end, the problem is not "Google" (or whoever) the problem is people. If there wasn't Google, there would be some other company, etc... Very, very few people seem to really care about privacy / F/LOSS / de-centralization. I have been preaching it for years, mostly I don't bother any more as it largely falls upon deaf ears. For those (very few) who do show interest, I am happy to make myself available.
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#18 Post by cadillacmike68 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:54 pm

TRS-80 wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:22 pm
CCleaner? What is this? 1999? :lol:

As far as cookies, there are plug-ins (for Firefox I am sure, no idea about Chrome[-ium]) as I don't use that) which will remove them automatically per your settings (upon closing of tab or browser, or some time, etc.). I am using Cookie AutoDelete for example.


Say what you want but ccleaner is fast,doesn't get in the way and allows you to specify which cookies to keep.

I haven't set the browsers to delete all cookies on exit because I have some saved PWs, including this site. I don't want them gone.

And, I'm pretty sure that thee built in browser delete on exit, Especially Chrome's, will NOT delete their own cookies.
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#19 Post by TRS-80 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:53 pm

cadillacmike68 wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:54 pm
Say what you want
I kid because I love (no homo). :D

Most of my joshing is about using "Freemium" software. There is almost no need to any longer, with very good F/LOSS alternatives almost always existing (including, in this case).
cadillacmike68 wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:54 pm
ccleaner is fast,doesn't get in the way and allows you to specify which cookies to keep.

I haven't set the browsers to delete all cookies on exit because I have some saved PWs, including this site. I don't want them gone.
The browser plug in does its work automatically in the background on an ongoing basis (therefore speed doesn't really matter, although I certainly never noticed any sort of slowdown).

Of course both white and black lists are available. There are actually quite a number of configurable options.
cadillacmike68 wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:54 pm
And, I'm pretty sure that thee built in browser delete on exit, Especially Chrome's, will NOT delete their own cookies.
The problems in Chrome go waaaay deeper than cookies. :eek: In fact, Chrome is actually not "a browser" so much as it is "Google spyware, with a browser front-end." :lol:
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Re: Google's Chrome bloatware revealed

#20 Post by SKA » Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:22 am

I suggest look at these

1] The Classic Browser
https://theclassictools.com/

Discussion- (dev name Get Real! ) - https://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus45383.html

2] Web Browser (Palemoon fork ) - needs help for more devs
https://git.nuegia.net/webbrowser.git/

Or use Palemoon with umatrix and ublockOrigin for time being :-)

or ungoogled Chromium - https://chromium.woolyss.com/ (Marmaduke)

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