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Re: Looks like a new W7xx (edit: 17" P70, and P50 replacing W541) is coming out? (small pics)

#61 Post by bhtooefr » Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:04 pm

I'm not sure that's a middle scroll button - on the Dells that I support, the one for the pointing stick is for scrolling, the one for the trackpad is for middle-clicking, and you use two-finger scrolling (like a Mac) on the trackpad.
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Re: Looks like a new W7xx (edit: 17" P70, and P50 replacing W541) is coming out? (small pics)

#62 Post by sysiphus » Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:33 am

bhtooefr wrote:I'm not sure that's a middle scroll button - on the Dells that I support, the one for the pointing stick is for scrolling, the one for the trackpad is for middle-clicking, and you use two-finger scrolling (like a Mac) on the trackpad.
I can't speak to the software for the Dells, but the Synaptics hardware used in HP workstations have software to assign them either way. My preferred configuration is to disable the touchpad while retaining the use of the lower button set, thus getting left, right, middle, and scroll buttons. When I started using CAD software on a daily basis on it, middle click became a necessity for panning/zooming (combined with right click) if I didn't have my trackball and 3D mouse with me.
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Re: Looks like a new W7xx (edit: 17" P70, and P50 replacing W541) is coming out? (small pics)

#63 Post by bhtooefr » Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:32 am

I'd have to get an M4800 in front of me to verify what options are available, but you can definitely disable the pad independently of the buttons.

In other news, there's some conflicting images.

This is apparently a P70 motherboard: http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/ ... 18a87d.jpg

Note the rather weak cooling solution, and what looks like a soldered GPU.

However, this shows a much beefier cooling solution (under Reliability), and what's very clearly a MXM-B GPU (under Performance): https://www.thinkworkstations.com/thinkpad/

Also, two long M.2 slots are shown on that 3D tour.
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Re: Looks like a new W7xx (edit: 17" P70, and P50 replacing W541) is coming out? (small pics)

#64 Post by fb1996 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:15 am

bhtooefr wrote:This is apparently a P70 motherboard
No, that's the motherboard of the P50 (you can identify it easily because there is only one Thunderbolt 3 port and the ExpressCard slot isn't located between two USB ports).
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Re: Looks like a new W7xx (edit: 17" P70, and P50 replacing W541) is coming out? (small pics)

#65 Post by bhtooefr » Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:38 am

Ah, right. Now it makes sense.

That cooling solution still isn't particularly beefy, but at least it makes a lot more sense.
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Re: Looks like a new W7xx (edit: 17" P70, and P50 replacing W541) is coming out? (small pics)

#66 Post by Ibthink » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:50 am

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-IFA ... -p/2164261

A short hands-on review by me, since I got a chance to briefly try out the P-series on IFA last week.
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#67 Post by Saucey » Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:57 am

P50 and P70 look great!
Happy to see a 17" ThinkPad happening again. :banana:
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Re: Looks like a new W7xx (edit: 17" P70, and P50 replacing W541) is coming out? (small pics)

#68 Post by Rochefort » Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:32 am

Ibthink wrote:https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-IFA ... -p/2164261

A short hands-on review by me, since I got a chance to briefly try out the P-series on IFA last week.
Thanks a lot :bow:
At least,according to your PRECIOUS review, a 2280 is avaliable :banana:
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#69 Post by Ibthink » Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:08 pm

Rochefort wrote:Thanks a lot
My pleasure :)

More pictures of the P70 inside here: http://www.thinkscopes.com/2015/09/ibc- ... on-review/

As for the P50: http://www.thinkscopes.com/2015/09/ibc- ... on-review/
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Re: Looks like a new W7xx (edit: 17" P70, and P50 replacing W541) is coming out? (small pics)

#70 Post by Rochefort » Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:25 am

I've read'n print them, the P70 or an eventual T70 without the GPU but the fast PCIe storage will be my next baby.
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Re: Looks like a new W7xx (edit: 17" P70, and P50 replacing W541) is coming out? (small pics)

#71 Post by jayk » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:30 am

I watched the video on Thinkscopes... the power brick was briefly visible but I couldn't get a good look. Does anyone know the size/weight of the 170W adapter that will come with these? Is it the same as the current 170W supply (4X20E50574: 1.8x3.0x6.1", 1.32lbs)? Would be nice if one could use a smaller power adapter, although the i7-6700HQ has a TDP of 45W, M2000M is supposed to be 65W, the panel is probably 10-15W, need some power for charging... I guess 170W is about right.

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Re: Looks like a new W7xx (edit: 17" P70, and P50 replacing W541) is coming out? (small pics)

#72 Post by Rochefort » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:44 am

http://i.imgur.com/pyn2S9Q.jpg ...the 3 bricks on the right.

P50 = 170w
P70= 170 & 230w
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Re: Looks like a new W7xx (edit: 17" P70, and P50 replacing W541) is coming out? (small pics)

#73 Post by jayk » Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:08 pm

Are you sure those are power bricks (in the picture)? I thought that was some kind of stackable peripheral system (or maybe a whole stackable PC)... they're sitting in front of a box that appears to show them stacking on top of each other.

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#74 Post by fb1996 » Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:06 pm

jayk wrote:I thought that was some kind of stackable peripheral system
Yes, that's the ThinkPad Stack.

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#75 Post by PandorasThinkpad » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:31 pm

Yeah....looks very interesting...

and for me....the biggest advantage...of the P70...ultrabay....and....quite like the P50, too, ethernet port and power port on the backside...this is simply GREAT!

I don't even like any machines with this ports on the right or left side...so i did my decision and chose T410s and T420s..to be my actual machines.
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#76 Post by Rochefort » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:53 am

You can find them HERE :)
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Re: Looks like a new W7xx (edit: 17" P70, and P50 replacing W541) is coming out? (small pics)

#77 Post by MikalE » Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:13 am

Not in four years. ;).

Should be able to pick one up for what you pay for a used W520 today. Or maybe even a T520.

With the island keyboard though, I won't be buying one. Too bad they don't give you an upgrade choice of which keyboard you want.
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#78 Post by Puppy » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:20 am

ThinkPad P50s http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-unv ... 136.0.html

No 4K resolution option :(
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#79 Post by Temetka » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:30 pm

Nice hardware.

Why is it that OEM's cannot curve the front edge of the laptop anymore? My T410 has a nice curve on the front lower edge by the trackpad buttons which allows my wrists to rest comfortably on the machine. Every Dell I have used since the D630 has had square edges and they hurt your (my) wrists after about 20 minutes. It looks like there is "slight" curving on the P50/70 chassis but from the photo's it still looks mostly square to me.
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#80 Post by jdrou » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:54 pm

Puppy wrote:ThinkPad P50s http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-unv ... 136.0.html

No 4K resolution option :(
Comparable Precision 15 5510 has 4K available and a smaller footprint and thickness (although thickness measurements given by manufacturers are always questionable). And already available.
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#81 Post by PandorasThinkpad » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:36 am

Temetka wrote:Nice hardware.

Why is it that OEM's cannot curve the front edge of the laptop anymore? My T410 has a nice curve on the front lower edge by the trackpad buttons which allows my wrists to rest comfortably on the machine. Every Dell I have used since the D630 has had square edges and they hurt your (my) wrists after about 20 minutes. It looks like there is "slight" curving on the P50/70 chassis but from the photo's it still looks mostly square to me.

So it is and this won't come back again....perhaps with the "Retro" Thinkpad...when it will ever going to be launched...so do what everyone is going to do....go til T420s/ T420/ X220/ W520 and hope that there will be once again a real usable and trusty, powerful.....real business machine.....manufactured and sold by lenovo...
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#82 Post by Puppy » Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:53 pm

P50s Lenovo specs https://www.thinkworkstations.com/products/p50s/

So the 3K only is official :(
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#83 Post by Puppy » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:41 am

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#84 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:19 am

Lenovo IS insane!
They sell a Lenovo P70 that turns out to be a smartphone????

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#85 Post by Puppy » Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:35 am

Yep, the "P70" name is used for two different Lenovo products :)
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#86 Post by Puppy » Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:08 pm

The pricing is insane. Highest P70 configuration here is for $7500 (converted from local currency to USD) :o
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#87 Post by 600X » Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:41 pm

I find the pricing fair. The quality on these machines is exceptional. They even put the T60p to shame.
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#88 Post by jdrou » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:08 pm

High-end Quadros are always ridiculous -- unless you really need them.
Quadro M5000M is a $2500 upgrade over the base model; i.e. costs more than the base model itself.
64GB memory is $840 (or for comparison with previous post, 32GB is $360), Xeon CPU is $440, and 4k screen is $510.

Roughly equivalent Precision 7710 is a lot cheaper though; M5000M is only $1200, 4k IGZO is only $170. Xeon upgrade is a bit more than Lenovo though since base model CPU is weaker. Dell's memory upgrades are also a lot less. Really need to see a review comparing equivalent configurations. (HP's ZBook 17 G3 doesn't seem to be available yet.)
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#89 Post by Puppy » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:19 pm

Well, another model: P50 - 4K, M2000M, 32 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD, i7 6820HQ = $4000.
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#90 Post by brchan » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:23 pm

I really do wish Lenovo would come out with another dual screen model like the W70*ds. But with such emphasis on thinness in todays electronics market and the availability of 4k displays, I highly doubt it.
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