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Not much to say.. A big step back
Thinkpad T61F 14" (2.53 GHz QX9300, 6 GB RAM, Quadro FX570m 256 MB, SXGA). Advanced dock with AMD Radeon HD7750
Custom build ITX desktop (i5 4590, 8GB RAM, AMD R7 260X, custom watercooling)
Thinkpad 8, Fujitsu F-07C
ThinkPads: 600X (i3), A31p (FlexView), X41, T43, T60 (FlexView), T61p (4:3), R61 (QXGA), X301 (AFFS), W500, X220t, X1
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/09/ ... ith-edram/
Relevant to ThinkPads are the 15 and 28 W SKUs of the Skylake-U, and the Skylake-H SKUs.
Possibly most interesting are the 28 W Skylake-U SKUs. 64 MiB of eDRAM, GT3-level integrated graphics, and a 2.7 GHz hyperthreaded dual core i3-6167U, to a 3.3-3.6 GHz hyperthreaded dual core i7-6567U. Sweet spot is probably going to be the 3.1-3.5 GHz i5-6287U, with the same GPU boost clock as the i7.
Honestly, I'd be fine with that in the Retro machine, even though I voted for a quad. (The quads all have HD Graphics 530 anyway, which doesn't have the eDRAM.) Sadly, though, I don't think we'll see those parts in a ThinkPad, as none of them have vPro, so they'd design towards the 15 W parts, which aren't nearly as interesting.
Past: T61p 15.0" QXGA, T60p 15.0" QXGA, X61 Tablet SXGA+, R51e 14.1" XGA, X21
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Very likely to be my next system if I end up buying one anytime soon...600X wrote: However, Clevo is offering Barebones with Desktop CPU's, for those who want to have swappable CPU's.
George (your grouchy retired FlexView farmer)
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On the high-performance end, there has been the world's first Xeon equipped mobile workstation released: http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/pc- ... 484/review
Considering more Thinkpads. Retiring my X200T. PM me if anyone wants to home it.
OS: Ubuntu and Windows 10.
That depends on what tier you buy though. If upgrading is easy then you might buy whatever CPU works right now while if you know you can't upgrade you're more likely to buy close to the top of the line CPU. And if you can't upgrade and you don't happen to like the other changes that were made in the product line later then you're forced to go to some other line. Obviously this is relevant because of the history of Thinkpads over the last few years; you can't trust that buying a new system when you need more CPU will be a simple matter.laowai wrote:yes, it's BGA, but it's basically all overkill at this point anyways. by the time you have maxed out ram and the bottleneck is actually the CPU, it's typically well beyond time to upgrade.
X31, X40, X61T, X61, X201, X220 (i7 IPS), W520 (2720QM/2000M/FHD), T440p (i7-4800MQ/GF730GT/FHD)
Dells: Latitude C840, Precision M70, Precision M4400, M6400 (WUXGA), M6600, M6700
Daily driver: Dell XPS 13 w/Kaby Lake+Iris Pro+TB3
Other: mk5 Toughbook cf-19, mk1 Toughbook cf-53
brchan wrote:CPU upgradeability is nice, but processors have become so fast now that even an entry or entry-mid level processor can probably handle 10+ years easily. Even a T2500 can still handle most web and media content well. This definitely was not the case with the old pentiums over a decade ago. Now for ram, storage, network, and so on, that should be easy to upgrade.
exactly. CPUs are simply not generally a major bottleneck anymore. if you are doing something that intensive that CPU is going to be a major bottleneck, you are better off with a desktop anyways, and it will be cheaper than a laptop trying to be something it's not.
But since that would be terribly awesome, it won't happen. I am very content using my T410 until such a machine exists or this machine up and dies.
Thinkpad T430s 8GB DDR3, 1600x900, 128GB + 250GB SSD's, etc.
E6520, Precision M4400, D630, Latitude E6520
ThinkPad Tablet 16GB 1838-22U
IBM Thinkpad X61T, T61, T43, X41T, T60, T41P, T42, T410, X301
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