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Re: Lenovo CES 2019

#31 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:26 pm

TPFanatic wrote:
Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:14 pm
I do that and the 160 pixel difference is truly negligible.
I disagree. I run a T450 with a 1080p display which I dock to a 1200p monitor and the extra 120 pixels I find VERY noticeable and helpful. When I code...I find 120 pixels enough to throw in a console window while still having ~1000 pixels for code.

EDIT: Whoops I just realized you were talking about horizontal pixels.
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Re: Lenovo CES 2019

#32 Post by Puppy » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:39 pm

Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:26 pm
I run a T450 with a 1080p display which I dock to a 1200p monitor and the extra 120 pixels I find VERY noticeable and helpful. When I code...I find 120 pixels enough to throw in a console window while still having ~1000 pixels for code.
Yes, I use 1600x1200 external monitor and it is still better than 1920x1080 resolution. I tried to move the taskbar to the right edge on 1080 one but still not as good as 1200 horizontal pixels. Anyway, I found 1200 low as well so next monitor will be 4K.
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Re: Lenovo CES 2019

#33 Post by amardeep » Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:13 pm

L390 Yoga with very, very slim bezels. Interesting.

L390 without such slim bezels. Hmm, oh well.

Edit : seems weird, both quote 1920x1080 13.3" displays and the same 322 mm x 224.2 mm x 18.8 mm dimensions so something's wrong ? Actually notebookckeck has a different, and more corresponding L390 Yoga picture, so god knows which model the image on the hk lenovo website actually is. Maybe someone got carried away mocking-up the display in the images ?

Another edit : what was I thinking ... the L390's were the ones I originally linked to in this very thread. I guess I was so excited about them, I wiped them from my memory, and thought another couple of new models had been released. And then got excited by super-slim bezels ("I want to believe"). I even checked it was an actual lenovo page. I didn't account for Lenovo being completely, utterly, grossly incompetent. Shouldn't have cracked the laptop open. Back to Christmas. Sorry ! :-)
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Re: Lenovo CES 2019

#34 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:27 pm

amardeep wrote:
Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:13 pm
L390 Yoga with very, very slim bezels. Interesting.

L390 without such slim bezels. Hmm, oh well.
When you are talking Lenovo..."L" stands for "LARGE" (bezels)
*cough*L430*cough*

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Re: Lenovo CES 2019

#35 Post by bgx » Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:33 pm

L390yoga is indeed interesting. Probably smaller footprint than the X290 which i find ugly.

just a question: where is the webcam?

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Re: Lenovo CES 2019

#36 Post by Puppy » Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:33 pm

The L390 Yoga looks like a bad render. But it can have less [censored] panel (but glossy) than regular L390.
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Re: Lenovo CES 2019

#37 Post by bgx » Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:41 pm

yep, it IS a fake render.

here is the actual more traditional look :

https://www.eteknix.com/wp-content/uplo ... 00x543.jpg

a short review:
https://www.ubergizmo.com/2018/12/lenov ... l390-yoga/

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Re: Lenovo CES 2019

#38 Post by Puppy » Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:18 pm

So another step down Lenovo did, to provide (intentional?) fake pictures. Aren't they able to compete with Dell XPS?
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Re: Lenovo CES 2019

#39 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:28 pm

Puppy wrote:
Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:18 pm
So another step down Lenovo did, to provide (intentional?) fake pictures. Aren't they able to compete with Dell XPS?
Why make a competing product when you can make competing renders and not give customers refunds?
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Re: Lenovo CES 2019

#40 Post by amardeep » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:18 pm

Can't be bothered to register on reddit, which is where I saw this, so I thought I'd ask here. Regarding a post about 2019 Thinkpads :
ibmthink
You might be surprised at the timing this year. Hint: Everything is late.
Can you shed more light on this ? Does this mean that new models will be announced at CES but won't ship for some time, or announcements will be pushed back to later in the year ?

Edit (7 Jan) : am I going nuts, or has the big countdown ticker at https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/events/ces gone back up by a day or so since I last looked ? Not exactly what I thought was meant by "everything is late" ! One thing's for sure, the bad L390 Yoga renders are still on the lenovo hk site. Odd.

Additional edit : nope it really happened, see topic here on reddit. What a mad way to run a company.

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Re: Lenovo CES 2019

#41 Post by Puppy » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:12 am

CES 2019 | Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon 2019 adds brighter LCDs, better speakers & a Carbon-Fiber coating
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Th ... 286.0.html

- 4K HDR glossy screen option
- better FHD display (lol)
- same crappy WQHD display - low contrast
- decreased battery capacity from 57 Wh to 51 Wh possibly to make room for the newly-added subwoofers :roll:
- 16 GB RAM maximum :roll:
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Re: Lenovo CES 2019

#42 Post by amardeep » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:17 am

So, not a lot happened at CES. Inremental changes for the 7th generation X1 Carbon as mentioned above (and here's another link about it at anandtech). The announcement of the refreshed X1 Yoga (again, at anandtech). There was also an E490s.

I suppose the biggest news was the aluminium case on the X1 Yoga (it could do with being a bit darker, so it looks more like a Thinkpad !). Both X1 models aren't due until mid-year (waiting for CPUs I guess), so maybe there'll be announcements about the rest of the range sometime around then ? Or maybe the 80-series stuff carries on until CES 2020 ? Snooze.

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Re: Lenovo CES 2019

#43 Post by Ibthink » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:29 pm

Rumor is that this years generation is delayed because of Intel's supply issue (source: Lenovo retailer who posts in the German ThinkPad Forum). That is why the X1 models will only be released mid year and why the other models have not been announced yet. These models will definitely get announced at some point in 2019. 2020 is the next-generation past Tx90 (whatever they are called) with Ice Lake.
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Re: Lenovo CES 2019

#44 Post by Dekks » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:45 am

Ibthink wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:29 pm
Rumor is that this years generation is delayed because of Intel's supply issue (source: Lenovo retailer who posts in the German ThinkPad Forum). That is why the X1 models will only be released mid year and why the other models have not been announced yet. These models will definitely get announced at some point in 2019. 2020 is the next-generation past Tx90 (whatever they are called) with Ice Lake.
Intel binned any attempt at die shrinkage this year and told the financial community they would have supply issues meeting demand going forward in 2019 in a pre-xmas conference call with analysts.

Actually it was in Sept https://www.crn.com/news/components-per ... dly-tight-
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