Lenovo's Fourth Quarter Losses...

[dr_st]

Some of the common claims made in favor of widescreen are not quite true.

1) working side by side with 2 pages. You might be shocked to know it, but two A4/Letter-sized pages are better suited to a 4:3 screen than to a 8:5/16:9 screen. Now if you want to work with 2 pages and an IM program, that's a different thing.

2) regarding wider lines. First of all, in word processing apps, the page width is fixed, and so widescreen does not make lines wider to fit more text. It just stretches the page making the text huge. Second of all, reading wide lines is hard for the eyes (this is why newspapers are printed in columns), so the extra horizontal space widescreen offers here is again not useful.

[pianowizard]

1) working side by side with 2 pages. You might be shocked to know it, but two A4/Letter-sized pages are better suited to a 4:3 screen than to a 8:5/16:9 screen.

Not shocking at all. Despite this fact, widescreens are still better for me because:

1) When there are comments in the margins of a Word document, the page becomes about 2 inches wider. Many of the Word documents that I work with contain these comments.

2) I don't need to view the top and bottom margins. When I work on Word documents, I double-click on the space in between pages to get rid of the top and bottom margins.

But I agree with you on your second point, regarding wider lines.

[tomh009]

[quote="bill bolton"That's like saying a laptop isn't conceptually different from a desktop! After you've used a laptop for awhile it become quite clear that there is a huge conceptual difference between a desktop and a laptop.

Use a netbook in a true computing cloud environment for a while and the same sort of conceptual gap starts to become very apparent.[/quote]

A cloud environment is indeed conceptually different. But that, however, can be used with a netbook, subnotebook, notebook, laptop, or even (gasp!) a desktop. As a device, though, I challenge you to explain how the S10 is conceptually different from an X200 ... any more than the X200 is conceptually different from a W700.

[bill bolton]

I challenge you to explain how....

I already did...... go use a Netbook with a computing cloud environment for a while then you will know.

Cheers,

Bill B.

[tomh009]

I already did...... go use a Netbook with a computing cloud environment for a while then you will know.

But you are assuming that only netbooks can only be used in a cloud environment, and that netbooks only get used in a cloud environment. Neither is correct. Cloud computing is different, and I agree with that. But the netbook is just a smaller subnotebook, the difference is all in how you use it. To quote Wikipedia (italics mine):

A netbook is a small portable laptop computer designed for wireless communication and access to the Internet.

Primarily designed for web browsing and e-mailing, netbooks rely heavily on the Internet for remote access to web-based applications and are targeted increasingly at cloud computing users who require a less powerful client computer.

Anyway, you want to only talk about cloud computing, not the netbook/subnotebook difference, so I doubt we are going to get anywhere with this conversation.

[bill bolton]

But the netbook is just a smaller subnotebook, the difference is all in how you use it.

No.

The point of netbook is that it is small, light and inexpensive, and relies on the cloud for "services" that are built into a notebook (such as processing power and to some extent screen area)..... that is, they are NOT just a smaller subnotebook.

This changes significantly not only how they are used, but what they become useful for in user terms (and that includes commercial and personal "business"). Its a paradigm shift.

Cheers,

Bill B.

[thePCxp]

To which I ask... why don't they get serious about reading our forum, addressing the issues we so fairly report, and build a better product?
After all who better to consult with than your customers?

I think that Lenovo does come to this forum. I think that the bad economy is to blame for their loss.

[archer6]

I think that Lenovo does come to this forum. I think that the bad economy is to blame for their loss.

I agree, there is no doubt in my mind that each of the notebook manufacturers visit the respective public forums. However it's how they respond to the customers feedback that matters. As far as the economy is concerned, it's clear that the financial collapse has had a major impact, and yet to blame it all on that, seems to be more of a victim script as opposed to looking at what they can do to mitigate the impact of the current downturn. At the end of the day, a proactive approach will always prevail over finger pointing.