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Why no i7-6700HQ in the Thinkpad series?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:09 am
by geluidsgolf
Can somebody comment on this. I don't understand why Lenovo offers a cheaper consumer model like the Ideapad Y700 (14") Laptop
with a 6th Generation Intel Core i7-6700HQ Processor (2.60GHz 1600MHz 6MB).

But fails to offer this on the Thinkpad line.. even the flagship W series models has to do with a lower CPU.

Re: Why no i7-6700HQ in the Thinkpad series?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:15 am
by Puppy
geluidsgolf wrote:But fails to offer this on the Thinkpad line.. even the flagship W series models has to do with a lower CPU.
http://psref.lenovo.com/Product/ThinkPad_P70
http://psref.lenovo.com/Product/ThinkPad_P50

Re: Why no i7-6700HQ in the Thinkpad series?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:19 am
by geluidsgolf
Aha, I haven't heard of the P-series (POWER?) yet. Looks nice but i'm still curious why they don't offer this on the X- T- or W- series?

Re: Why no i7-6700HQ in the Thinkpad series?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:23 am
by Puppy
P series replaces W one.

Re: Why no i7-6700HQ in the Thinkpad series?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:35 am
by geluidsgolf
Ok, I was already assuming that the W series will be replaced by the P.

So what about the X- and T- series.. don't they deserve the better option over a cheaper consumer Ideapad?

Re: Why no i7-6700HQ in the Thinkpad series?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:47 am
by brchan
geluidsgolf wrote:Ok, I was already assuming that the W series will be replaced by the P.

So what about the X- and T- series.. don't they deserve the better option over a cheaper consumer Ideapad?
Those cpus would probably run too hot or consume too much power in an X or T model. Also, people who buy models with top end processors would very likely go for ones with larger screens and powerful GPUs.

Re: Why no i7-6700HQ in the Thinkpad series?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:49 am
by Pokrzept
geluidsgolf wrote:Can somebody comment on this. I don't understand why Lenovo offers a cheaper consumer model like the Ideapad Y700 (14") Laptop
with a 6th Generation Intel Core i7-6700HQ Processor (2.60GHz 1600MHz 6MB).

But fails to offer this on the Thinkpad line.. even the flagship W series models has to do with a lower CPU.
You see modern-day Thinkpads are not ment to COMPUTE (who needs computer that compute :banana: ), they are ment to be light and look trendy as much as possible (apple-alike).

Re: Why no i7-6700HQ in the Thinkpad series?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:23 am
by evening_hunger
Pokrzept wrote:
geluidsgolf wrote:Can somebody comment on this. I don't understand why Lenovo offers a cheaper consumer model like the Ideapad Y700 (14") Laptop
with a 6th Generation Intel Core i7-6700HQ Processor (2.60GHz 1600MHz 6MB).

But fails to offer this on the Thinkpad line.. even the flagship W series models has to do with a lower CPU.
You see modern-day Thinkpads are not ment to COMPUTE (who needs computer that compute :banana: ), they are ment to be light and look trendy as much as possible (apple-alike).
(Pozdrowienia dla kolegi!)
I tend to disagree. For example in my sci work, I do computations on my x220 but only part of them. So say I do numerical simulation (which is the case). You have large cases and small testcases. Small are perfectly feasible even on Intel Core Duo - class machines. So my i7 is even too serious for those, in fact I would agree for i3/i5 (but my machine was a gift, so no choice). The "big" simulations I do on supercomputers. Those machines have usually over 4000 Xeon cores, and no batteries, hehe. (There's one nice pearl like this in Poland as well, Prometheus (AGH Cracow). France has quite a few machines in top500 too...).
So, it comes down to a simle scheme: small here, big there, no prob. Of course you might think of intermediate size simulations, and those run well on desktops.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is that it IS possible to do deadly-serious work (and actually compute) on anything. And 6th gen i procs will definitely land in all new Thinkpad series...

Re: Why no i7-6700HQ in the Thinkpad series?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:17 am
by hhhd1
Unlikely on the X series, even though it should be possible with TDP limited to 35w.

And the new T series with skylake hasn't been released yet.

Re: Why no i7-6700HQ in the Thinkpad series?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:46 am
by geluidsgolf
So that 6th generation is going to be an option in the upcoming T and X series?
I guess that Y700 Ideapad is newer then it would make sense.

Re: Why no i7-6700HQ in the Thinkpad series?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:33 pm
by hhhd1
All the new 6th generation quadcores , even the fastest one, the 6920HQ, support running at 35w TDP optionally, which make it possible to use in laptops smaller than 14".

For T series, it is quite possible, since the old T series (14" and 15") with 4th generation had quad core with 45w power.

in the X series, i doubt it, Lenovo is trying to make this series and thin and light as possible, so they will not put a quad core, .. even though it should be quite possible and won't produce allot of heat.

Re: Why no i7-6700HQ in the Thinkpad series?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:10 pm
by n2ri
think W520 had the option as it had a couple better than the W700 series even. those series are called Workstations though. I think if the W701 had such options maybe they would still be sold.

Re: Why no i7-6700HQ in the Thinkpad series?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:14 pm
by ZaZ
For most users, battery life takes precedence over performance, so whether it's Skylake or another older processsor won't make much of a difference.