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A sturdy, modern successor to x200?

#1 Post by Czesuaf » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:21 am

I have a second hand Thinkpad X200 which survived a 100+ falls in my "care" and being picked up by the lid. I am not intentionally cruel to my laptops, but I have cerebral palsy, which means that I drop things through spasms and not the best grip and agility. The time has come for me to retire my x200, cos it just about had enough. It is still working, but I don't trust its usb ports anymore, and I rely on a dongle to have ac wifi.
If I wanted a new thinpad with similar durability, is my only option Carbon X1? Or will the x270, or even t470p be at least as sturdy as x200? I am a little concerned about the use of plastics in these cheaper models and I really need my machine to be as sturdy as possible, while preferably still being a thinkpad.
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Re: A sturdy, modern successor to x200?

#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:21 am

Welcome to the Forum.
The sturdiest of them all are probably the X120e (2011), X130e (2012) and X131e (2014).
Some of the above come with AMD CPU, these should be avoided at all costs; high heat and low performance.
The others have Intel CPU and are much better performers.
There's also a newer X140e (2014) which has an acceptable AMD A4-5000 CPU.
It's heavy though (3.9 Lbs / 1.77 KG).
I am not aware of similar newer models.

If you are into Chromebooks, this Lenovo N22 might be an option.
https://techaeris.com/2017/01/16/lenovo ... u-need-it/

Of course there is always the option to find a new(er/ish) X200 or X201.

For more info on other brands, have a look at this: http://laptops.reviewed.com/features/th ... s-on-earth

I'm sure others will chime in.
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Re: A sturdy, modern successor to x200?

#3 Post by axur-delmeria » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:49 am

There's a version of the Lenovo N22 with Windows 8.1 preinstalled. The biggest issue is that both storage and RAM are embedded in the system board, so upgrades are impossible. :evil:
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Re: A sturdy, modern successor to x200?

#4 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:53 am

The X60 is a strong as hell machine. 51NB should be able to get it up to a i7-7500U and 16gb Should keep you going for another 5-7 years.
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Re: A sturdy, modern successor to x200?

#5 Post by CPC464 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:14 am

If you need something more powerful: a X220 or X230. Not so sturdy as a X200, but much faster. I had for a short period of time a X140 (the amd 2 cores model), and it wasn't faster than a X200. I sold it again. Too weighty for its size and too slow, and I don't think it is really sturdier than a X200.

But, like Realblackstuff says, if your only concern are the faulty USB ports in your unit... X200 are very cheap these days. You can get another working one (or a X201) for a reasonable price. If you need ac wifi, you can always install an ac capable wifi card in your X200 (you'll need to remove the whitelist from BIOS first).

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Re: A sturdy, modern successor to x200?

#6 Post by shawross » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:45 pm

Yes welcome to the forum.

It depends probably on how much money you have to spend and your usage requirements. Your X200 might still be ok especially if you can get a AC WIFI card and it has an SSD.
Keep in mind the SSD and even the AC WIFI card might be usable in a newer machine if you still update to a newer model. In your circumstance I would be tempted to have a backup laptop ready to go which many Thinkpadders from this forum tend to possess.
I like the X220 and if you can pickup one cheap enough it might be an option. The X220 is not as sturdy as your X200 or my X301 or X201 but as already pointed out it is not significantly slower than the latest hardware.
If you drop and break a $150 laptop it is probably not going to hurt too much. YMMV

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Re: A sturdy, modern successor to x200?

#7 Post by unixed » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:08 am

If the USB ports are of the same material as those used on the *500 series then it's best to avoid using them (if the central ridge breaks you may not be able to boot because of a short) and use a flush-mount USB expresscard adapter instead. That has the added advantage that if the port gets damaged falling with the dongle connected you can just replace the card. See this courtesy of dr_st.

Preferentially you could install an internal ac capable wifi card in your X200 but the expresscard route is easier and you don't run the risk of dropping your X200 when flashing the BIOS to remove the whitelist or indeed when replacing the card.

Using a SSD and working on a thick rubber mat will shift the survival odds in your thinkpads favour.

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Re: A sturdy, modern successor to x200?

#8 Post by fourthree » Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:02 am

You might like 51nb's X210. It's a completely new mobo with new CPUs, DDR4 and all that stuff. Fits inside the X200/201.

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