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Service Options; New X60; Advice Solicited

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:50 am
by Ken Fox
In the X60 forum I posted the results of a temperature measuring study of the right palmrest, that I did yesterday on my <3 week old X60: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=36873

I recorded surface temperatures up to almost 102F on the default (medium powersaving) Intel Wifi card setting, and a couple of degrees cooler on the highest power savings setting, something recommended as a "fix" for this commonly reported X60 problem (or feature, however you see it :roll: )

Previously (which I did not mention) this notebook's hard drive died, which fortunately was at a time when I had already received the 7K100 drive destined for the notebook, so I simply put the 7k100 in and called tech support for the replacement original drive.

I find this laptop intolerable to use especially when typing. There are people in this forum who have this same laptop and do not have this problem, and others who have sent their X60s in for service and had this "fixed," either by replacement of the WiFi card or the motherboard. I'm trying to decide what is the best course of action for me in this situation with this virtually new X60 that has already (also) needed a new hard drive.

I called IBM tech support and spoke with a gentleman who supposedly was in Atlanta Georgia but obviously was not a native English speaker (although we understood each other). I don't know where he really was located, and this may not matter. I told him I wanted a new machine, that I'd had too many problems with this machine in <3 weeks and they should pick it up and send out a new one. He said he could not do this, that all he could do was to send me a box by DHL and that I could send it in for depot repair at an IBM service center. Alternatively, I could call the sales dept. and try to get them to replace it. He said there was no "Customer Service" number apart from "sales," even though I recall reading here that there is such a dept. located in the USA as opposed to the sales people who are in Toronto.

My dealings with the sales people in Toronto does not inspire confidence. I have also read some real horror stories in this forum having to do with IBM sanctioned repair facilities where laptops are returned in pieces or missing pieces and with accusations of liquid spills, etc., where there was no such problem existing when the laptop was sent in.

SO--- here's my question: What is my best option? They are dispatching a box to me, but unless they are going to send it to North Carolina (about which I've read good things here) I'm not sending the laptop in (unless I have the wrong impression, please correct me). What I'd really rather do is get ahold of someone who has the power to simply take the thing back and send me a new one, since a <3 week old laptop should not already be having these problems and I should not have to accept a machine that is being repaired, now TWICE, in this period.

Any and all comments and pieces of advice would be much appreciated!

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:29 pm
by JHEM
Ken,

If Lenovo is unable or unwilling to agree to replace the unit or refund your money for its purchase, I would suggest that you contact your credit card company if you used one to purchase it.

James

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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:03 pm
by Ken Fox
JHEM wrote:Ken,

If Lenovo is unable or unwilling to agree to replace the unit or refund your money for its purchase, I would suggest that you contact your credit card company if you used one to purchase it.

James
Hi James,

I appreciate your suggestion. I'm more than willing to use chargebacks (and have in the past) but I limit that sort of thing to intentional misconduct (or behavior as bad) on the part of a merchant before I'll go that route. I don't think that Lenovo has done anything intentionally bad at this point.

What I'm trying to find out is who to call at Lenovo to try to get a refund (if need be) or replacement (preferable to me). The tech support # gets you someone who can't authorize that sort of thing, someone who can just arrange for "repairs." I have little confidence in the people I would reach at the sales numbers.

Is there some number for genuine "customer service?" The sort of number you call at most companies when an order has problems? I'm reasonably certain that if I could reach that department we could reach some sort of accommodation. I guess I could try the regular number and see if there is a selection for an order already placed, but I don't recall hearing that on the pushbutton choices.

Here, by the way, is today's palm temperature graph that I got after removing my additional RAM and swapping back in the original 80gb 5400rpm hard drive. I stopped the test after it became so uncomfortable that I could not use it!

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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:54 am
by mephie
Your best bet is probably to call the help center back and keep asking to speak to supervisors or something similar. As far as I'm aware, they can open a complaint record that'll put your issue in the hands of customer service type people who have access to the higher level techs (i.e. the North Carolina cats). I'm sure the level one person can't replace your system, but I wouldn't think sales would be the way to go either, and the help center should be able to put someone from customer service in touch with you.