Getting rid of the windows key on new thinkpad models?!

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Getting rid of the windows key on new thinkpad models?!

#1 Post by citizen024 » Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:34 pm

Are any of the keyboards from the older models (eg.r/t/x4# series) compatible with the new ones from lenovo, preferably without doing tooo extreme hacking.

Im truly alergic to having a windows key, and if theres no solution ill be forcet to wotk with legacy hardware untill it becomes soo outdated that ill be forced to giveup the trackpoint and switch to mac:(

There must be some solution, i refuse to have M$ branding on any TuxPad of mine..

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#2 Post by whizkid » Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:58 pm

I'm sure a solvent or a good knife will do the job. Since you're no doubt also allergic to having Windows on the machine, Gnome and KDE can still make good use of that key.
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#3 Post by RealBlackStuff » Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:42 pm

You can also stick a small picture of Billy Gates on that Windows key and 'hammer' on it,
like you'd want to kill the sucker.. :twisted:
Or get another keyboard and swap that offending key for a matching other key.
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Re: Getting rid of the windows key on new thinkpad models?!

#4 Post by mattbiernat » Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:39 pm

nothing against MS here but i don't like it either. post some solutions here...

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#5 Post by dhutch » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:01 pm

I removed the time logo from this keyboard with a knife some solvent...

Its not noticable from a large distance, but its certainly not pritty.

As the lettering is basicaly the same stuff as the actaull plastic, the technique is basicaly to mechanical removed the bulk of it with the knife, and then 'smudge it around a bit' with the solvent.


However i wouldnt try that on the key of my new thinkpag if i could afford a new one!!



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#6 Post by ryengineer » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:26 pm

Newer thinkpad keyboards come with a Windows sticker key as opposed to the key itself on older series, it can easily be removed with a sharp nail.
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#7 Post by citizen024 » Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:26 am

@ryengineer: nice to know its only a sticker on the new ones:)

but the button would still be useless, when the original layout was absolutely perfect. i use every single function on my T42, combinations of ctrl/alt/? render that button iritating and obsolete, on the original layout i can press ctrl+alt only using my little finger, with the windows key there that wouldnt work (yes i use keyboard shortcuts loads).

Seriously, is there no keyboard from a older modells that would fit the new thinkpads and work with minimal hacking.

Maybe someone here has the resources to check it out, (any one working with tech support where theres thinkpads and spare parts???????)
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Re: Getting rid of the windows key on new thinkpad models?!

#8 Post by davidspalding » Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:08 am

citizen024 wrote:Are any of the keyboards from the older models (eg.r/t/x4# series) compatible with the new ones from lenovo, preferably without doing tooo extreme hacking.

Im truly alergic to having a windows key, and if theres no solution ill be forcet to wotk with legacy hardware untill it becomes soo outdated that ill be forced to giveup the trackpoint and switch to mac:(

There must be some solution, i refuse to have M$ branding on any TuxPad of mine..
On my RHEL5 workstation, the Window key can be mapped to do something useful. YMMV.

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#9 Post by dr_st » Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:23 am

citizen024 wrote:Seriously, is there no keyboard from a older modells that would fit the new thinkpads and work with minimal hacking.
No, there isn't. Get over it. Use some program to map the Windows key to behave like Alt, if you want to press Ctrl+Alt with one finger.

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#10 Post by ryengineer » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:53 pm

ThinkVantage Keyboard Customizer Utility can be of your assistance in remapping.
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#11 Post by davidspalding » Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:20 am

On my version of the Keyboard Customizer Utility, the Thinkpad Windows can be mapped to only one of the various shift, control or ALT keys. Alas, not more than one.

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#12 Post by w0qj » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:29 am

Try the KeyTweak, a freeware, to remap your Windows Key for some other function.
http://webpages.charter.net/krumsick/

It makes changes in Windows Registry.
In fact, after using it to make changes, you can uninstall it.
No RAM memory footprint whatsoever!


I've previously used the KCU (Keyboard Customizer Utility), and it was sometimes sluggish, and upon startup, you have to wait until KCU to run before you can use it. Not that convenient.

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#13 Post by Roadster » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:20 am

dr_st wrote:
citizen024 wrote:Seriously, is there no keyboard from a older modells that would fit the new thinkpads and work with minimal hacking.
No, there isn't. Get over it. Use some program to map the Windows key to behave like Alt, if you want to press Ctrl+Alt with one finger.
Although the original poster may appear to be a little overly zealous over the "Microsoft" thing, there is a very practical reason for not wanting the Windows key on the Thinkpad keyboard.

While playing some FPS games (e.g., Half-Life), there is often a need to hit the Ctrl key to crouch under objects while moving forward, which requires you to hit the W key and the Ctrl key simultaneously. Given the location of both of these keys on the left hand side of the keyboard, I try to hit both keys with different fingers of my left hand. Unfortunately, I often find myself hitting the Windows key by accident and having the entire game disappear into the background, while the Start menu appears. Needless to say, this can be pretty aggravating when you are in the middle of intense gameplay. In circumstances like these, it would be really nice to have the Windows key removed altogether, placed in another location, or simply re-mapped to something more innocuous.
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#14 Post by ulrich.von.lich » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:43 pm

Yes if you play games the windows key could be quite annoying. I play Warcraft III on battle.net and the windows key is the No.1 hero killer.

Otherwise I can live with it, the windows key is pretty handy in Vista (Win + 1, 2, 3 etc). However I haven't discovered any use of the key (Document key?) between right alt and ctrl.

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#15 Post by davidspalding » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:15 pm

Unless something's different on yours, the "document" key between the right Windows key and right CTRL key is a "context menu key," which is like right-clicking in some instances.
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