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Why there are so many notebooks with 15" SXGA+ , but I don't see 15" LCD monitor for desktop with more than XGA resolution?

I have wondered this same thing for many years.

Overall lack of demand coupled with relative high price.

Besides, who wants less than 17" visible (19" CRT) on their desktop?

Regards,

James

JHEM wrote:Overall lack of demand coupled with relative high price.

Besides, who wants less than 17" visible (19" CRT) on their desktop?

But that is just the thing, if there is so little demand, then how on earth can the laptop market alone justify all of the high-res LCDs out there? And the 2378FVU is a bargain of a notebook, the LCD can't be more than $300 of its cost.

I agree that no one wants a 14" display on their desktop, but why couldn't we go for a 20" 2048x1536 LCD or something along those lines. That would be totally snazzy. With a high enough resolution we should be able to help with the aliasing issues when someone runs at slightly below the current native resolution typical for a 20" display. Such as 1280x1024 would be much easier to get close to with dithering and interpolation and anti-aliasing tricks when you had the finer pixels of a 2048x1536 instead of the nearly same sized 1600x1200 pixel grid.

Can you tell me how a 15 Notebook screen running at 1400x1050 compare to say a dektop 17 Lcd running at
1280x1024.
would the 15 look smaller or similar in screen size (fonts, Letters.etc)

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Anybody?

I can't even decipher your question. Why not try asking about comparing something quantative and not so much so qualitative. For instance, it is pretty easy to do the math and determine that @1400x1050 on a 14.1" the dotpitch, along with the rest of the line up. I will list the numbers here for you, hopefully it will give you an idea of how they compare.

12in @ 1024x0768 = 0.238mm
14in @ 1024x0768 = 0.277mm
14in @ 1400x1050 = 0.2032mm
15in @ 1400x1050 = 0.2177mm
15in @ 1600x1200 = 0.1905mm

Since I was feeling like it, I also did it for my new screen.
Dell 2005FPW / Apple 20" Cinema Display (16:10 AR)
20in @ 1680x1050 = 0.257mm

And for reference, the Dell 2001FP. (4:3 AR)
20in @ 1600x1200 = 0.254mm

And for your example monitor,
17in @ 1280x1024 = 0.27mm

So, now you can tell just how big or small text should feel on any screen. To do an accurate comparison and to determine the line which fits your particular eye's data points, you need to compare any two resolution on the list, you should then be able to extrapolate what any other one feels like.

Nomad-Man wrote:Can you tell me how a 15 Notebook screen running at 1400x1050 compare to say a dektop 17 Lcd running at
1280x1024.
would the 15 look smaller or similar in screen size (fonts, Letters.etc)

You are squeezing more pixels into a smaller area on the 15" vs. the 17".
At the same font scale, the fonts/letters on the 15" will look smaller than on the 17" display.

If the fonts are too small for you to read, you can always increase the font size (dpi) in Windows Display Properties.

As lfeagan mentioned, you can calculate the exact size differences.

alex_777 wrote:Why there are so many notebooks with 15" SXGA+ , but I don't see 15" LCD monitor for desktop with more than XGA resolution?

Because of the Movie industry!!

They don't allow digital DVI outputs that allow watching DVD. So most vendors stayed with analog VGA output. Analog allows max. SXGA, anything beyond, SXGA+ or UXGA becomes blurred.

So most LCD vendors sell mainstream SXGA, now even with DVI input but restrictions on the DVD output.

Big problems with HDTV now. Only HDMI certified monitors would allow high-resolution monitors.

Somehow the HDTV market is dead, at least in Europe.
The only solution is to buy some highle overpriced HDMI-HDTV monitor or "hack" the DVD software.