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Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:14 pm
by crashnburn
Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this?
40K9400
SK-8845 RC
I bought one online. It works decently, except its Function key does not work and it wont get recognized as the correct device and thereby show me the 'USB Ultranav' Tab in my Mouse Options to allow me to configure it. (i.e. With the Lenovo Drivers. Also, lot of online search and I cant find any drivers for it on IBM's site as well.. or Lenovos).
Are these models actually different or is the given part number simply a "business unit" difference.
Its IBM, not Lenovo and is made in 2010 (Lenovo ended it??). I did find the model present as Options for IBM Server machines / models.
Is there some way to have it detect as and use the last working Lenovo drivers for USB Ultranav?
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_DSCgTU6qhpw/TIrxb ... %20Pic.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_DSCgTU6qhpw/TIrya ... dFront.jpg
Keyboard and part numbers completely different from this on Lenovo Offering.
ThinkPad Travel UltraNav USB Keyboard - Overview
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-45849
ThinkPad Travel UltraNav USB Keyboard - Service parts
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-45850
North America
Description Marketing part number Replacement part number (FRU)
U.S. English 31P9490 02R0430
Canadian French 31P9491 02R0431
Europe, Middle East, Africa
Description Marketing part number Replacement part number (FRU)
Belgium/UK 31P9501 02R0441
Czech 31P9509 02R0449
Dutch 31P9495 02R0435
French 31P9494 02R0434
German 31P9492 02R0432
Greek 31P9511 02R0451
Hungarian 31P9510 02R0450
Arabic 31P9504 02R0444
Russian 31P9505 02R0445
Hebrew 31P9506 02R0446
Turkish 31P9508 02R0448
Italian 31P9499 02R0439
Polish 31P9507 02R0447
Portuguese 31P9503 02R0443
Slovakian 31P9513 02R0453
Slovenian 31P9512 02R0452
Spanish 31P9500 02R0440
Swiss French/German 31P9502 02R0442
U.K. English 31P9493 02R0433
U.S. English with Euro symbol 31P9519 02R0459
Latin America
Description Marketing part number Replacement part number (FRU)
Latin American Spanish 31P9517 02R0457
Asia Pacific
Description Marketing part number Replacement part number (FRU)
Chinese/US 31P9515 02R0455
Korean 31P9516 02R0456
Thai 31P9518 02R0458
Japanese 31P9514 02R0454
Re: Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:33 am
by ausmike
Hiya Crash* ....
Noimally I wouldnt even read these kinda post(s) let along REPLY to them ..............however what cough my 'eye' was the fact that you bought these as IBM PARTS! ok ,, blah blah ,,,,,
if look at one of the links you provided; there is a NOTE in the middle of page
STATING the " driver issue"
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-45849
here is a copy of that note
"Note: Do not install the device driver included in the Software and User Guide CD on ThinkServer™ systems, as the device driver is not compatible with server operating systems. The keyboard, therefore, does not perform the following functions: "ThinkVantage or Access Lenovo (the blue button)", "Fn + F3", "Fn + F4", "Fn + F5", "Fn + F7", "Fn + F12", "Fn + Home", "Fn + End", and "Fn + Spacebar"........"""
Maybe its relevant ?
Cheers
Re: Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:23 pm
by crashnburn
ausmike wrote:Hiya Crash* ....
Noimally I wouldnt even read these kinda post(s) let along REPLY to them ..............however what cough my 'eye' was the fact that you bought these as IBM PARTS! ok ,, blah blah ,,,,,
if look at one of the links you provided; there is a NOTE in the middle of page
STATING the " driver issue"
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-45849
here is a copy of that note
"Note: Do not install the device driver included in the Software and User Guide CD on ThinkServer™ systems, as the device driver is not compatible with server operating systems. The keyboard, therefore, does not perform the following functions: "ThinkVantage or Access Lenovo (the blue button)", "Fn + F3", "Fn + F4", "Fn + F5", "Fn + F7", "Fn + F12", "Fn + Home", "Fn + End", and "Fn + Spacebar"........"""
Maybe its relevant ?
Cheers
Thanks for bothering to reply
. Relevant but in a Contra or Opposite way. The note you noticed.. talks of .. Lenovo Keyboard (as per Product Code - On the note) on IBM Server..
Here I have an IBM Keyboard (as per Product Code).. on a Lenovo Thinkpad..
Thats the thing. This has the IBM logo all over it. The original Thinkpad name is nowhere to be found on the KEYBOARD I have.
The model number is nowhere to be found in the Lenovo PRODUCT pages... and was only found on the OPTIONS of the IBM Servers.
Maybe this kind of hidden Product Identification that mixes the two is causing all the Driver issues people have been facing.. (here and Lenovo forums).
Re: Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:31 pm
by Radioguy
It would seem you have an IBM server keyboard.
IBM does have a current model listed on their server configurator and accessory pages, and as you'll see, your model number does seem similar to the numbering system of the currently offered model:
http://www-304.ibm.com/shop/americas/we ... 8425150029
The drivers for which are available here:
http://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/po ... MIGR-63629
You could try these, but remember, a server would run IBM i, i5/OS, Windows Server '08, Linux, AIX or UNIX. If these drivers don't work for you, it may not be the model, but the OS compatibility instead.
Good luck.
Re: Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:12 pm
by crashnburn
Radioguy wrote:It would seem you have an IBM server keyboard.
IBM does have a current model listed on their server configurator and accessory pages, and as you'll see, your model number does seem similar to the numbering system of the currently offered model:
http://www-304.ibm.com/shop/americas/we ... 8425150029
The drivers for which are available here:
http://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/po ... MIGR-63629
You could try these, but remember, a server would run IBM i, i5/OS, Windows Server '08, Linux, AIX or UNIX. If these drivers don't work for you, it may not be the model, but the OS compatibility instead.
Good luck.
Thanks. Awesome.. Exactly what I might try out on a clone HDD and see how it works
Re: Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:52 pm
by Radioguy
Just looked a little deeper, and I see it's for a X3250 server:
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/systems/supp ... 9y0124.pdf (Pg 35 / 53 of PDF)
It's an optional console keyboard, that when set up,
comes out of a drawer slot in the rack.
Additionally, when I tried 40K9400 in the support search, it redirected to the current model and to the same drivers. So, those should be the correct drivers.
Re: Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:10 am
by crashnburn
Thanks for the help. I searched a lot and mostly I found both 40K9400 and another number on several pages as Options/Accessories, where one was the replacement for another (cant remember which was first). But for some funky reason I could not find the DRIVER page for it... I wonder how you got it
.
Thanks again. Lets see if it works.
Re: Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:31 pm
by Radioguy
I'm just a miracle worker.
Re: Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:33 pm
by wfb4000
Hello Crash,
I've been trying to do the same thing. Did the drivers work? I want my 40k9400 to be fully functional on my ThinkPad X40.
Re: Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:03 pm
by crashnburn
wfb4000 wrote:Hello Crash,
I've been trying to do the same thing. Did the drivers work? I want my 40k9400 to be fully functional on my ThinkPad X40.
Still trying to figure out the "right" driver.
Re: Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:18 pm
by Atlan
Hi,
maybe you want to try the latest UltraNav driver available here:
http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail. ... MIGR-66898
Have fun ...
Re: Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:45 pm
by Radioguy
crashnburn wrote:Still trying to figure out the "right" driver.
The one I posted remains the most current driver pack offered by IBM for this, and likely would only have drivers specific to the OS's the related server series shipped with. If you're after Windows 7 compatibility now, you might be out of luck if the retail Lenovo UltraNav KB drivers don't work.
Re: Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:00 am
by loyukfai
Got hold of one, the trackpoint seems to need disproportional forces between moving right and left though, that's, it's easier to move to the left than to the right.
Besides calling me a leftist, is there any other fix available...?
Cheers.
Re: Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:21 pm
by Radioguy
WD40?
Just kidding. I'd remove the trackpoint cap to see if the peg is truly centered or not. It could be defective. You may also be able to do some tweaking in mouse properties if the UltraNav driver for this model adds that tab to it.
Re: Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:30 pm
by loyukfai
If it's defective, I suppose I could replace it with a standard T4x keyboard, right...?
Cheers.
Edit: It shows up as a "Lite-On Tech" product among the Linux kernel message.
Re: Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 7:00 am
by loyukfai
Question...
Is it possible to replace the actual keyboard module of this 40K9400 with one that comes with the Windows key...?
Cheers.
Re: Which Thinkpad Ultranav USB Keyboard is this? (pic)
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 11:20 am
by loyukfai
Slightly took it apart and found these... (sorry for the bad lighting and focus, photos taken in kind of a hurry)
http://i43.tinypic.com/672rr5.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2a4woqg.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/bbg5v.jpg
Looks like a 40/41-series keyboard to me...?
Cheers.
