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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#601 Post by Nick Y » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:54 am

Blockmetal:
If I remember correctly, basically
a) Use Acronis TrueImage to make one CD boot disc
b) Take copy of existing hard disc with Acronis onto an external hard disc
c) Replace hard disc
d) Boot with CD and restore image to new hard disc.
e) Reboot and you are back up and running but with larger hard disc.

You may have to reformat the new hard disc, I forget. This may be taken care of when installing the image. Other readers may expand on above description, especially if you want to create partitions on new hard disc.

With method above you won't even need the XP keys.
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#602 Post by BigCatAndy » Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:48 am

Hello @all,

I also would like to use WD2500BEVE in my T43p. Does anyone has any experience (either positive or negative) with this drive?

Cheers,
Andrey.
svet-am wrote:anyone have experience with this drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822136159

It's a Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD2500BEVE 250GB. I'm thinking about picking it up for my T43. I already have a working 120GB Scorpio in it (and the 2010 error really doesn't bother me). I just make sure that the BIOS will recognize it.
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#603 Post by lukee » Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:11 am

Hi BigCatAndy, just install the drive and perform BIOS upgrade (see my signature). It will work like a charm.

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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#604 Post by BigCatAndy » Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:49 pm

Hello lukee,

thanks for the hint.
lukee wrote:Hi BigCatAndy, just install the drive and perform BIOS upgrade (see my signature). It will work like a charm.

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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#605 Post by sw40rpalm » Mon May 23, 2011 12:36 pm

I started with a job model 600 and have worked my way up by buying rebuildable T series on ebay and fixing or replacing bad part so that I have several of each model. I can't seem to want to put them back on ebay for sale after their fixed and working. :banana:

Now puting in the WD 320Gig HD in the T43's, T42's and T41's and I run into the 2010 error only in the T43's. It has a 6/9/2006 Bios the latest listed. Guess What- The T42's and T41's have a later 9/2007 Bios and I have no such error in those machines. The T43 Bios allows us to bypass the stop with a pause and the automatic continue of startup. :roll:

Didn't expect the stupid error in the T43's and didn't think it has been such a huge thing for so long. I suspect that aside for the anoyance of seeing and hearing it that the T43's will function as well with the new larg drive as with smaller drives or the T42's and T41's that don't seem to mind them.

Finally you think that if I try to relosd the Bios over itself or start installing all the firmware patches I see in downloads that the problem will stop :?

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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#606 Post by lukee » Mon May 23, 2011 2:14 pm

sw40rpalm wrote:I started with a job model 600 and have worked my way up by buying rebuildable T series on ebay and fixing or replacing bad part so that I have several of each model. I can't seem to want to put them back on ebay for sale after their fixed and working. :banana:

Now puting in the WD 320Gig HD in the T43's, T42's and T41's and I run into the 2010 error only in the T43's. It has a 6/9/2006 Bios the latest listed. Guess What- The T42's and T41's have a later 9/2007 Bios and I have no such error in those machines. The T43 Bios allows us to bypass the stop with a pause and the automatic continue of startup. :roll:

Didn't expect the stupid error in the T43's and didn't think it has been such a huge thing for so long. I suspect that aside for the anoyance of seeing and hearing it that the T43's will function as well with the new larg drive as with smaller drives or the T42's and T41's that don't seem to mind them.

Finally you think that if I try to relosd the Bios over itself or start installing all the firmware patches I see in downloads that the problem will stop :?
Hi, check the link in my signature where you can find unofficial modified BIOS from which is the 2010 ERROR checking procedure removed. Thanks to TTav134 member the infamous 2010 ERROR is only history from end of the year 2010. It is some magic, isn't it? :)
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#607 Post by T43pSSD » Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:41 pm

Hi, new to the forum and just learned of the modded slick2.1 bios for the T43 2010 error. I have not tried it yet, am I to understand this is an executable that installs from windows?
Has anyone had any issue installing this? wouldn't want to brick my unit....would be awesome to eliminate that stupid 2010.
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#608 Post by lukee » Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:48 am

There were two versions... Original version, when the mod was developed was an windows installer. Newest mod's compilation is distributed as ISO with auto-installer - just burn the ISO to an CD and boot it. I've used both variants of compilation: windows installer on T43p, bootable ISO on T43. No issues at all. Hope this helps.

Make sure the battery is fully charged and AC adapter is plugged in during the flashing process!!!
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#609 Post by T43pSSD » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:43 pm

thanks for the reply, Lukee. I looked at it this afternoon and saw the auto-installer.
Worked like a charm...awesome, no more flippin 2010 error, yip the f**** eeee!
A huge thank you to the genius that developed this gem, simply wonderful.

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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#610 Post by lukee » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:33 am

Looking for advice please: I can get Hitachi Travelstar 7K100 very cheaply, but it is an SATA model (HTS721010G9SA00) - is it possible to use 7K100 ATA logic board with the 7K100 SATA mechatronics? I would guess the mechatronics is same, logic board on the bottom would be only difference. What do you think?
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#611 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:57 am

The mechanics could/should very well be the same, but the interface is definitely different.
Since you can get that SATA HD cheap, give it a try, you got nothing to lose other than a cheap SATA HD.
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#612 Post by Xenomorph » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:28 pm

I don't know if I asked it before - but to anyone who has used this, does this for SURE work? (the BIOS update)

I've already flashed the BIOS, but have an "approved" 120 GB drive installed. It is getting full, and I was going to drop the $100 for a WD 320 Gig drive. I don't want to spend that much on the system only to end up with an annoying BIOS beep or some other weird incompatibility.
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#613 Post by lukee » Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:13 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:The mechanics could/should very well be the same, but the interface is definitely different.
Since you can get that SATA HD cheap, give it a try, you got nothing to lose other than a cheap SATA HD.
OK I bought the SATA 7K100 and expecting delivery this week. Before I will swap the electronics board, I will check all pins (spindle motor, connector for internal heads) on it if the count match the count of pins on ATA version. And then I will pray to a "Holy Byte" if it will power on or not :) I think it would be worth to test it in USB-ATA bridge first... And if it will work, I will get brand new ATA 7K100 drive with no wear.
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#614 Post by lukee » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:11 pm

I just finished my experiment: to swap electronics board from ATA version of 7K100 to 7K100's SATA mechatronics - it will not work, the hybrid HDD only spins up and nothing happens. After reassembling both 7K100s into theirs original states the both drives works OK, no damage occured during the experiment.
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Hard drives for T43p: list of FRUs

#615 Post by BigCatAndy » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:17 am

Hello @all,

the issue with hard drives is well known, but I could not find a list of hard drives, officially allowed by IBM at that time to be used with T43p. Does anyone know such a list?

Regards,
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P.S. Sorry, if this topic was already discussed here. In this case a link to the corresponding post is enough.
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#616 Post by Tasurinchi » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:31 am

BigCatAndy wrote:the issue with hard drives is well known
There is a BIOS patch that makes this issue history! No need to worry with a white listed drive, just plug in any PATA drive available (Click me)

I did it in my T43p and my three X41's (different patch files needed) and works without problems!
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#617 Post by BigCatAndy » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:18 am

Tasurinchi wrote:There is a BIOS patch that makes this issue history! No need to worry with a white listed drive, just plug in any PATA drive available (Click me)

I did it in my T43p and my three X41's (different patch files needed) and works without problems!
Thanks. To be honest, I'm a bit scarried to update my BIOS with any inofficial stuff. If I loose my laptop, it will cost me a lot of efforts to recover the data in it.

Perhaps, I will do it sometime.

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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#618 Post by ajkula66 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:22 am

Well, unless you are able to locate a NOS Fujitsu MHV2120AH or MHV2100AH, you're out of luck.

All currently produced PATA drives (Samsung, WD) will throw a "2010 error" on boot...not anything to lose sleep over in my not-so-modest experience with T43/p range...
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#619 Post by Tasurinchi » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:51 am

BigCatAndy wrote:I'm a bit scarried to update my BIOS with any inofficial stuff
Then just update the BIOS to the latest official driver, set the boot option to keep booting after the error message and just plug in any PATA drive, you may loose 3 seconds of booting time, but as akjula66 says this error is not a terrible thing.

Before the patch I was setting the speaker to mute to ignore the annoying beep sound (have a WD320GB "black listed" drive). Another option to avoid the beep is not to shutdown your operating system but hibernate instead.
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#620 Post by dorronto » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:53 am

I've used the BIOS patch numerous times with no problem. I was skeptical at first but now I don't hesitate to use it if I have to.

My two or three cents on that,
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#621 Post by lukee » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:15 am

Modded T43 and T43p about year ago - no problems at all! In T43 is Samsung HM160HC, in T43p is WD3200BEVE. I am using both daily and haven't experienced any weird behaviors.

A one paradox story: when the 'Error 2010' came up in 2005, the forum's member predicted in some thread here that this error will be solved in 2010 because he thought the 'Error 2010' has something to do with a year. He has had right, because TTaV134 member deployed the BIOS mod in November 2010 :)
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#622 Post by BigCatAndy » Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:57 pm

dorronto wrote:I've used the BIOS patch numerous times with no problem. I was skeptical at first but now I don't hesitate to use it if I have to.

My two or three cents on that,
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#623 Post by jsailorca » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:34 am

I have a Thinkpad T43 (2668-94U) and wanted to get rid of the notorious hard drive 2010 error. I downloaded the ISO file T43p-1YET65WW SLIC 2.1 no 1802 no 2010.iso ( made by TTAV134) and per instruction burned the image into a CD. Then, I followed the direction and booted from the CD. One initially sees the progress of flash of BIOS and after a few minutes nothing happened. No progression occurred. I was at a loss and waited 30 minutes before finally bravely decided to unplug and recycled power and reboot again. Lo and behold the error is gone? I rebooted and checked the BIOS (seemed to be the correct version but I am not sure) again and there is no 2010 error.

Should I flash BIOS again because I want to make sure teh SLIC 2.1 is there and the BIOS is flashed correctly? Or should I use Phoenix Winphlsh in the Win XP environment rather than going straight booting from CD/DVD drive.

When I unzip the abovementioned iso image file, I noticed there is ROM file named $0197000.ROM Should I only select "Verify Block after programming" in the advanced setting? Any suggestions as to how to proceed?

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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#624 Post by lukee » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:01 am

Hi jsailorca, if the 2010 error is gone then the BIOS is updated correctly.
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#625 Post by CeeBee » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:56 am

>> I've used the BIOS patch numerous times with no problem. I was skeptical at first but now I don't hesitate to use it if I have to. My two or three cents on that, Ron<<

Hi Ron,

Before using a modified BIOS update on my T43 1871-4BU (BIOS 1.29) to eliminate the dreaded 2010 error message, I have some questions. So much written on this that it's easy to miss the important stuff:

1. I need a current link to download an .iso image (not a .zip file) to make a boot CD. Where?
2. Booting from this CD, what's the sequence of events and am I told when it's done?
3. If the mod-flash doesn't work and my OEM BIOS is messed up, can I re-flash it by using IBM's 1.29 BIOS?

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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#626 Post by RealBlackStuff » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:49 pm

Enter this in Google: T43_R52-70ET69WW_SLIC2.1_no_1802_no_2010.iso
and search for it.
It seems to move around quite a bit...
Don't follow any links with urlisdown.....
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#627 Post by CeeBee » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:42 am

Hi RBS...

Actually, I did this already, but, wanted to be sure that I downloaded the right .iso image. I found my copy here: http://www.4shared.com/file/P5A3kl_N/T4 ... no_180.htm

And, what about my other two issues:

2. Booting from this CD, what's the sequence of events and am I told when it's done?
3. If the mod-flash doesn't work and my OEM BIOS is messed up, can I re-flash it by using IBM's 1.29 BIOS?

With sequence of events I mean, what do I see on the screen, how long does it take and am I told when it's done successfully. And, obviously, if the mod-flash doesn't work I don't want to end up with a dead/damaged T43.

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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#628 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:33 am

It's a selfbooting CD.
I don't remember the exact procedure, but this might apply:

Upon opening the WinPhlash (32 or 64 bit), click "Advanced Settings" then check and uncheck the boxes so it looks like this:

("Flags" Tab):
[ ] Verify BIOS part number
[ ] Flash only if BIOS version is different
[ ] Flash only if BIOS version is newer
[ ] Verify BIOS image size
[ ] Verify BIOS checksum
[ ] Zero block before erasing
[x] Verify block after programming
[x] Disable Axx swaping automatic detection (if present)
[ ] Clear CMOS Checksum

("DMI" tab)
"Update": Select "Update the BIOS and not DMI"

If not, you should be guided.
If it doesn't work, you can reflash with another BIOS.
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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#629 Post by CeeBee » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:49 am

Hello again RBS...

That's something I can use as a guideline for the flash. And, I gather the http://www.4shared.com link I mentioned pointed me to the correct the correct .iso file. Thanks, CBA

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Re: Problems with non-thinkpad option drives on T43 thinkpads

#630 Post by AdaSch » Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:52 pm

Hi,

i have lucky and buy 7k100 100gb for 25eur (used)
i have one oem ibm 7k100 100gb (one letter is different in firmware IBM=I OEM=0)
ofter update (manual) error 2010 gone :D
important inforamtion!
dont allow to turn on file fw.exe (use ctrl c after run mscdex)
after that update is immposible :eek:
w/o fw.exe - no problem :D

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