Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
I finally installed Windows 7 Pro on my T43 1871-4BU (2GB memory). This is (a partial list of) what I installed of the Intel/IBM-Lenovo utilities:
- Intel Display Driver (downloaded from Intel) - Driver Revision: PV 14.25.50; Package: 31983; Graphics: 6.14.10.4764; HDMI Audio: 5.10.0.1026
- Winbond (National Semiconductor) TPM (Trusted Platform Module) Device - 5.1.47.2011
- Lenovo System Update - 5.03.0008
- Lenovo Power Management Driver - 1.67.04.04
- Lenovo Power Manager - 6.64.2
- ThinkPad UltraNav Driver - 16.2.19.13
- ThinkPad UltraNav Utility - 2.13.0
- Hotkey Features Integration - 3.81.01 (later versions won't install)
- Intel PRO Wireless 2915ABG Driver - 9.1.2.10
- ThinkVantage Access Connection - 6.11
- ThinkVantage Active Protection System - 1.78.0.11
- ThinkVantage Fingerprint Software - 5.9.9.7282
The T43 seems to work fine with W7, albeit a bit sluggish! Any comments on the above which may improve the performance would be welcome. TIA!
One question: after installing the display driver I ended up with seven monitors. Why and how can I correct this? This what device manager shows:
- Generic Non-PnP Monitor
- Generic Non-PnP Monitor
- Generic Non-PnP Monitor
- Generic Television
- Generic Television
- ThinkPad Display 1024x768
- ThinkPad Display 1024x768
If I delete one or several of the "extra" monitors, they are recreated at next boot. I don't know if the extra monitors use resources or are negative in any other way, but, if possible, I would like to remove them. What gives? Any suggestions?
Note: I moved this issue from another thread (W7 32 or 64-bit) to gain better exposure.
- Intel Display Driver (downloaded from Intel) - Driver Revision: PV 14.25.50; Package: 31983; Graphics: 6.14.10.4764; HDMI Audio: 5.10.0.1026
- Winbond (National Semiconductor) TPM (Trusted Platform Module) Device - 5.1.47.2011
- Lenovo System Update - 5.03.0008
- Lenovo Power Management Driver - 1.67.04.04
- Lenovo Power Manager - 6.64.2
- ThinkPad UltraNav Driver - 16.2.19.13
- ThinkPad UltraNav Utility - 2.13.0
- Hotkey Features Integration - 3.81.01 (later versions won't install)
- Intel PRO Wireless 2915ABG Driver - 9.1.2.10
- ThinkVantage Access Connection - 6.11
- ThinkVantage Active Protection System - 1.78.0.11
- ThinkVantage Fingerprint Software - 5.9.9.7282
The T43 seems to work fine with W7, albeit a bit sluggish! Any comments on the above which may improve the performance would be welcome. TIA!
One question: after installing the display driver I ended up with seven monitors. Why and how can I correct this? This what device manager shows:
- Generic Non-PnP Monitor
- Generic Non-PnP Monitor
- Generic Non-PnP Monitor
- Generic Television
- Generic Television
- ThinkPad Display 1024x768
- ThinkPad Display 1024x768
If I delete one or several of the "extra" monitors, they are recreated at next boot. I don't know if the extra monitors use resources or are negative in any other way, but, if possible, I would like to remove them. What gives? Any suggestions?
Note: I moved this issue from another thread (W7 32 or 64-bit) to gain better exposure.
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
It's the generic video driver that is causing most of the sluggishness.
You'll have to search the web deep and hard to find a modded driver that will somewhat solve this problem.
Good luck.
You'll have to search the web deep and hard to find a modded driver that will somewhat solve this problem.
Good luck.
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
Thanks. As the driver package I have now (d/l from Intel) works fine, I'm reluctant to try any modded version I find "out there". So far this package gave me the best performance/sharpness, at least of the drivers I have tried...It's the generic video driver that is causing most of the sluggishness. You'll have to search the web deep and hard to find a modded driver that will somewhat solve this problem.
One driver I found via Laptop Driver Blog (also based Intel 6.14.10.4764) seems to be modded, but, I'm not sure what the difference is (IntelR915GM_GMS910_GML_win7.zip). I may try it later, however, am looking for more data from others. We'll see...
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
What do you have showing as Display Adapter under Device Manager?CeeBee wrote: Thanks. As the driver package I have now (d/l from Intel) works fine, I'm reluctant to try any modded version I find "out there". So far this package gave me the best performance/sharpness, at least of the drivers I have tried...
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
Two entries (like I had when using XP Pro):What do you have showing as Display Adapter under Device Manager?
Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset Family (Location: PCI bus 0, device 2, function 1)
Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset Family (Location: PCI bus 0, device 2, function 0)
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
Interesting.
Does the machine sleep/hibernate without issues?
Does the machine sleep/hibernate without issues?
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
Sleeps, hibernates and the rest without issues. All options are available and working fine via W7's control screen and/or Lenovo's Power Manager 6.64.2. Also available when using Alt-F4.
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
What is also interesting is the Intel Display Driver you downloaded from Intel has integrated 'HDMI Audio' into the drivers 
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
Noted, but I'm not sure what that does for me? Another entry in Device Manager under System devices: Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller - 2590
Anyhow. The above FYI.
Anyhow. The above FYI.
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
I'd leave it alone then.CeeBee wrote:Sleeps, hibernates and the rest without issues. All options are available and working fine via W7's control screen and/or Lenovo's Power Manager 6.64.2. Also available when using Alt-F4.
You may try to tweak the settings and disable processes that you deem non-essential in order to get the machine to feel faster.
Good luck.
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
The sluggishness may partly be due to the difference running W7 compared to XP. But, once I get the hang of W7, I'll tweak it a bit more (than I already have). Thanks for your feedback. Best
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
If you're not running with 2GB of RAM in that T43, upgrade NOW.
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
As mentioned in my 1st post, I have 2GB of RAM installed. Belatedly, I have uploaded a print-screen of the Device Manager showing (among others) Display adapters and Monitors. Still a bit confused about the many monitors listed. If I can't remove them, would it make sense to disable the five non-ThinkPad monitors. Would that save on resources used? Best.If you're not running with 2GB of RAM in that T43, upgrade NOW.

Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
I don't know just what it means, but I'm used to seeing multiple display adapters and monitors listed like that when running Windows in Safe Mode, when the drivers are not loaded. Could it be that Windows has detected the presence of those drivers and their associated hardware, but can't load them properly?
Collection = T500 - R400 - X300 - X200 - T61 (14" WXGA+) - T61 (14.1" SXGA+) - T60 (15" SXGA+) - X40 - T43p - T43 - T42p - A30P - 600E
Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
All five "extra" monitors use monitor.sys, a Microsoft signed driver, and they show: This device is working properly. Location refers to the Intel Display adapter. And if I delete them, they reappear when I scan for new hardware or reboot. If I uninstall the Intel Display adapter, they are all gone.I don't know just what it means, but I'm used to seeing multiple display adapters and monitors listed like that when running Windows in Safe Mode, when the drivers are not loaded. Could it be that Windows has detected the presence of those drivers and their associated hardware, but can't load them properly?
I can either leave them as-is (enabled) or disable them. Not sure what's the best option for performance. Or, maybe I can do something with the registry ... "to make them go away"?!
Note: if relevant, I can post the entries (11 monitors in all) in the registry.
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
To me it appears as if you staring yourself blind on something that should be completely ignored.
The graphics processor consists of two parts: a digital part for the laptop's LCD and an analog part for an external monitor.
That's why you always find two of each in your Device Manager.
Add to that the possibility to connect to a projector and you already have 5 entries for Display.
My advice: forget about it and don't waste your time on such trivial stuff.
Disabling one or more will not make your machine run any faster/better.
The graphics processor consists of two parts: a digital part for the laptop's LCD and an analog part for an external monitor.
That's why you always find two of each in your Device Manager.
Add to that the possibility to connect to a projector and you already have 5 entries for Display.
My advice: forget about it and don't waste your time on such trivial stuff.
Disabling one or more will not make your machine run any faster/better.
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
The Display adapter's 2 entries is normal/known, but, with due respect to your analysis, I doubt 7 entries under Monitors are. Is this trivial stuff? Well, maybe it is .. maybe it isn't. Regardless, it would be interesting to hear from someone running W7 on a T43 with the same Intel chip set (display adapter) as I have on my 1871-4BU.The graphics processor consists of two parts: a digital part for the laptop's LCD and an analog part for an external monitor. That's why you always find two of each in your Device Manager. Add to that the possibility to connect to a projector and you already have 5 entries for Display.
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
Probably because of all the drivers that you tried to install, the registry is 'overloaded'.
Try this: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/504/how- ... -services/
But let me also put it this way:
nobody in their right mind would run W7 on an Intel T43/R52.
'Nuff said.
Try this: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/504/how- ... -services/
But let me also put it this way:
nobody in their right mind would run W7 on an Intel T43/R52.
'Nuff said.
Lovely day for a Guinness! (The Real Black Stuff)
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU
Still keeping my 600X up to date, albeit with XP Pro. It's been my trusty 'bush-companion' for years traveling the world. But, jokes aside, other than the too-many-monitors 'issue', my T43 runs quite well with W7 Pro. Don't miss Aero a bit .. so I'll keep on tweaking. Need to know how W7 functions .. to be able to support my wife and her T430s.But let me also put it this way: nobody in their right mind would run W7 on an Intel T43/R52. 'Nuff said.
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