Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU

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Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU

#1 Post by CeeBee » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:35 am

I finally installed Windows 7 Pro on my T43 1871-4BU (2GB memory). This is (a partial list of) what I installed of the Intel/IBM-Lenovo utilities:

- Intel Display Driver (downloaded from Intel) - Driver Revision: PV 14.25.50; Package: 31983; Graphics: 6.14.10.4764; HDMI Audio: 5.10.0.1026
- Winbond (National Semiconductor) TPM (Trusted Platform Module) Device - 5.1.47.2011
- Lenovo System Update - 5.03.0008
- Lenovo Power Management Driver - 1.67.04.04
- Lenovo Power Manager - 6.64.2
- ThinkPad UltraNav Driver - 16.2.19.13
- ThinkPad UltraNav Utility - 2.13.0
- Hotkey Features Integration - 3.81.01 (later versions won't install)
- Intel PRO Wireless 2915ABG Driver - 9.1.2.10
- ThinkVantage Access Connection - 6.11
- ThinkVantage Active Protection System - 1.78.0.11
- ThinkVantage Fingerprint Software - 5.9.9.7282

The T43 seems to work fine with W7, albeit a bit sluggish! Any comments on the above which may improve the performance would be welcome. TIA!

One question: after installing the display driver I ended up with seven monitors. Why and how can I correct this? This what device manager shows:

- Generic Non-PnP Monitor
- Generic Non-PnP Monitor
- Generic Non-PnP Monitor
- Generic Television
- Generic Television
- ThinkPad Display 1024x768
- ThinkPad Display 1024x768

If I delete one or several of the "extra" monitors, they are recreated at next boot. I don't know if the extra monitors use resources or are negative in any other way, but, if possible, I would like to remove them. What gives? Any suggestions?

Note: I moved this issue from another thread (W7 32 or 64-bit) to gain better exposure.

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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU

#2 Post by ajkula66 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:16 am

It's the generic video driver that is causing most of the sluggishness.

You'll have to search the web deep and hard to find a modded driver that will somewhat solve this problem.

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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU

#3 Post by CeeBee » Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:38 am

It's the generic video driver that is causing most of the sluggishness. You'll have to search the web deep and hard to find a modded driver that will somewhat solve this problem.
Thanks. As the driver package I have now (d/l from Intel) works fine, I'm reluctant to try any modded version I find "out there". So far this package gave me the best performance/sharpness, at least of the drivers I have tried...

One driver I found via Laptop Driver Blog (also based Intel 6.14.10.4764) seems to be modded, but, I'm not sure what the difference is (IntelR915GM_GMS910_GML_win7.zip). I may try it later, however, am looking for more data from others. We'll see...

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#4 Post by ajkula66 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:15 pm

CeeBee wrote: Thanks. As the driver package I have now (d/l from Intel) works fine, I'm reluctant to try any modded version I find "out there". So far this package gave me the best performance/sharpness, at least of the drivers I have tried...
What do you have showing as Display Adapter under Device Manager?
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU

#5 Post by CeeBee » Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:26 pm

What do you have showing as Display Adapter under Device Manager?
Two entries (like I had when using XP Pro):

Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset Family (Location: PCI bus 0, device 2, function 1)
Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset Family (Location: PCI bus 0, device 2, function 0)

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#6 Post by ajkula66 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:28 pm

Interesting.

Does the machine sleep/hibernate without issues?
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU

#7 Post by CeeBee » Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:39 pm

Sleeps, hibernates and the rest without issues. All options are available and working fine via W7's control screen and/or Lenovo's Power Manager 6.64.2. Also available when using Alt-F4.

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#8 Post by emeraldgirl08 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:39 pm

What is also interesting is the Intel Display Driver you downloaded from Intel has integrated 'HDMI Audio' into the drivers :?:
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#9 Post by CeeBee » Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:55 pm

Noted, but I'm not sure what that does for me? Another entry in Device Manager under System devices: Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller - 2590

Anyhow. The above FYI.

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#10 Post by ajkula66 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:12 pm

CeeBee wrote:Sleeps, hibernates and the rest without issues. All options are available and working fine via W7's control screen and/or Lenovo's Power Manager 6.64.2. Also available when using Alt-F4.
I'd leave it alone then.

You may try to tweak the settings and disable processes that you deem non-essential in order to get the machine to feel faster.

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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU

#11 Post by CeeBee » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:33 pm

The sluggishness may partly be due to the difference running W7 compared to XP. But, once I get the hang of W7, I'll tweak it a bit more (than I already have). Thanks for your feedback. Best

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#12 Post by ajkula66 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:35 pm

If you're not running with 2GB of RAM in that T43, upgrade NOW.
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU

#13 Post by CeeBee » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:42 am

If you're not running with 2GB of RAM in that T43, upgrade NOW.
As mentioned in my 1st post, I have 2GB of RAM installed. Belatedly, I have uploaded a print-screen of the Device Manager showing (among others) Display adapters and Monitors. Still a bit confused about the many monitors listed. If I can't remove them, would it make sense to disable the five non-ThinkPad monitors. Would that save on resources used? Best.

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#14 Post by Neil » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:11 am

I don't know just what it means, but I'm used to seeing multiple display adapters and monitors listed like that when running Windows in Safe Mode, when the drivers are not loaded. Could it be that Windows has detected the presence of those drivers and their associated hardware, but can't load them properly?
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU

#15 Post by CeeBee » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:41 am

I don't know just what it means, but I'm used to seeing multiple display adapters and monitors listed like that when running Windows in Safe Mode, when the drivers are not loaded. Could it be that Windows has detected the presence of those drivers and their associated hardware, but can't load them properly?
All five "extra" monitors use monitor.sys, a Microsoft signed driver, and they show: This device is working properly. Location refers to the Intel Display adapter. And if I delete them, they reappear when I scan for new hardware or reboot. If I uninstall the Intel Display adapter, they are all gone.

I can either leave them as-is (enabled) or disable them. Not sure what's the best option for performance. Or, maybe I can do something with the registry ... "to make them go away"?!

Note: if relevant, I can post the entries (11 monitors in all) in the registry.

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#16 Post by RealBlackStuff » Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:11 pm

To me it appears as if you staring yourself blind on something that should be completely ignored.
The graphics processor consists of two parts: a digital part for the laptop's LCD and an analog part for an external monitor.
That's why you always find two of each in your Device Manager.
Add to that the possibility to connect to a projector and you already have 5 entries for Display.
My advice: forget about it and don't waste your time on such trivial stuff.
Disabling one or more will not make your machine run any faster/better.
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU

#17 Post by CeeBee » Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:31 am

The graphics processor consists of two parts: a digital part for the laptop's LCD and an analog part for an external monitor. That's why you always find two of each in your Device Manager. Add to that the possibility to connect to a projector and you already have 5 entries for Display.
The Display adapter's 2 entries is normal/known, but, with due respect to your analysis, I doubt 7 entries under Monitors are. Is this trivial stuff? Well, maybe it is .. maybe it isn't. Regardless, it would be interesting to hear from someone running W7 on a T43 with the same Intel chip set (display adapter) as I have on my 1871-4BU.

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#18 Post by RealBlackStuff » Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:36 am

Probably because of all the drivers that you tried to install, the registry is 'overloaded'.
Try this: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/504/how- ... -services/

But let me also put it this way:
nobody in their right mind would run W7 on an Intel T43/R52.
'Nuff said.
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Re: Windows 7 Pro on T43 1871-4BU

#19 Post by CeeBee » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:01 am

But let me also put it this way: nobody in their right mind would run W7 on an Intel T43/R52. 'Nuff said.
Still keeping my 600X up to date, albeit with XP Pro. It's been my trusty 'bush-companion' for years traveling the world. But, jokes aside, other than the too-many-monitors 'issue', my T43 runs quite well with W7 Pro. Don't miss Aero a bit .. so I'll keep on tweaking. Need to know how W7 functions .. to be able to support my wife and her T430s.

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