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Temperature Problem T43

#1 Post by Emilio » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:51 am

Hi all,
I have a big problem on my Ibm T43, normally the temperature of the Cpu is 90° C, more o less, and I have done some things, like clean the fun, the contact of the fan, grease (fat) in the fan, programs tpfancontrolsource_0_21, but always the same: someone can give info to resolve this problem?
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:01 am

Don't know what fat/grease you used and where you used it.
But there needs to be proper thermal paste (like AS5 = Arctic Silver 5) between CPU and cooler.
You apply this after cleaning both CPU and cooler with Isopropyl alcohol.
See also here: http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appmeth ... d_v1.1.pdf
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#3 Post by Emilio » Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:06 am

Hi RealBlackStuff,
I have also the Thermal Past, but the temperature is always the same. Do you have other thinks to do?
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#4 Post by dogbarber » Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:24 am

Emilio wrote:grease (fat) in the fan,....
Wait....what?
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#5 Post by Emilio » Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:43 am

Hi dogbarber,
yes grease (fat) in the fan, after no noise, but the temperature is alwaus too high: naturally the fun has to to be opened in the four points.
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#6 Post by RealBlackStuff » Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:13 am

Fans do NOT take grease or fat, only sewing machine oil or an even lighter oil!
I suggest you get another cooler, yours does not seem to be working.
Make sure to get the correct one (Intel and ATI graphics models use different coolers!).
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#7 Post by dogbarber » Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:25 am

Knowing what I know about oil and oil viscosity, I think your animal fat would be too thick to allow that tiny little fan to run efficiently off of the tiny little push it gets from the battery. RealBlackStuff is right, you need a super thin oil.

I'm a dog groomer by trade and the oil we use to lubricate our clipper blades would be perfect.

Dead animal goo may not be the best thing to use with such a finely tuned fan.
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#8 Post by Emilio » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:34 pm

Hi guys,
yes, but the high temperature there was also before of the fat. I put fat for the noises and with fat no noise. Now I would like to resolve also the problem of high temperature. Can be normal this high temperature because I have put High Performance always?
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#9 Post by geka3250 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:14 pm

Hi Emilio!
Try to start your notebook with keyboard opened. Does the fan rotating? Also try to touch top copper side of cooler(if thermal grease good - 90C will be extremely hot to touch)
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#10 Post by Adda » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:07 am

If the cooler turns out to be working as intended, then look at this:
http://www.thinkpads.com/forum/viewtopi ... 2&t=112612

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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#11 Post by Emilio » Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:09 pm

Hi all,
help me......... today the temperature has arrived two times to 100° and everytime at 100° the pc has stopped and I have to restart pressing the button On/Off
I have pulish the fun, all oc, parts and ect, but nothing. Please me a suggestion.
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#12 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:42 pm

Either your fan is no longer working, or you use the wrong fan, or it is not mounted properly with thermal paste.
Did you plug the power cable from the fan in the correct slot?
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#13 Post by dogbarber » Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:48 pm

Or the fat has seized the fan.

I can't be believe that's even a sentence.
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#14 Post by Emilio » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:47 am

Hi all,
today I have put a fan of another Ibm T43, not oped, not fan, original naturally used. The temperature is lower, but alwasy high between 80° and 90°. Now I don't know if the problem is only the fun, what do you think?
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#15 Post by ajkula66 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:49 pm

I suspect that there's either too much/too little thermal paste applied or the heatsink is not sitting correctly.

The temps that you're reporting are pretty darn high even for a "p" setup.

Are you using ThinkPad Fan Control?
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#16 Post by Emilio » Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:59 pm

Hi ajkula66,
also for me the temperature is too high: yes I use tpfancontrolsource_0_21 with Setting Manual 7, is correct the setting?
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#17 Post by ajkula66 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:38 pm

Wow...if you're getting those temps with the fan on 7, there's something definitely wrong with the fitting of the heatsink.
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#18 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:34 pm

What is the P/N or FRU number on that fan?
It's probably from a different/wrong laptop.
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#19 Post by Emilio » Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:55 am

Hi all,
the fan that I am using now with temperature lower but always between 80° and 90°, is 26R9066 Fru Fan Long M24 26R9074: on the other fan with temperature higher between 90° and 100° it is impossible read the number part. Please let me know.
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#20 Post by ajkula66 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:52 am

That is the correct fan for T43...you might have to re-fit it again.

Is it noisy? Does it seem to be spinning OK?
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#21 Post by Emilio » Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:01 am

Hi,
no noise.
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#22 Post by ajkula66 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:16 am

The only thing I can think of is that it needs re-fitting since it's not sitting properly.
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#23 Post by Adda » Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:40 pm

Some XP machines suffer from a bug in windows update that puts the CPU under 100% load, stopping the associated service stops the problem.

To check if this might be the problem, open the task manager to see if the CPU is under load, if it is, try stopping the "automatic updates" service.

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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#24 Post by Emilio » Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:03 am

Hi all,
I don t know why, but from yesterday afternoon the pc is working with a normal temperature between 60° and 70°: I have not done nothing of different. I hope now that will continue to working with these temperatures.
Coul be do because I have turned heathin of in my home?
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#25 Post by Emilio » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:55 am

Hi all,
another time the temperature of the pc is very high, between 85 and 95 degree. I don t know.............. Help me.
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#26 Post by dogbarber » Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:19 am

I think we are all at a loss for advice at this point.
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#27 Post by RealBlackStuff » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:38 am

How about taking pictures of that fan, how it is mounted and whatever else info?
Post the pictures on imageshack, imgur, picasa, or wherever, and post the links, so we can see WHAT you are doing (wrong).
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#28 Post by ajkula66 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:21 am

Solid advice right here:
Adda wrote:Some XP machines suffer from a bug in windows update that puts the CPU under 100% load, stopping the associated service stops the problem.

To check if this might be the problem, open the task manager to see if the CPU is under load, if it is, try stopping the "automatic updates" service.
and if that doesn't resolve anything, I'll just repeat myself:
The only thing I can think of is that it needs re-fitting since it's not sitting properly.
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#29 Post by Emilio » Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:42 am

Hi all,
I am very tired, one day the temperature is ok, and one day no ok. I have 3 Ibm T43 and I know like change the fun, so I dont think that is a problem of installation.
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Re: Temperature Problem T43

#30 Post by ajkula66 » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:18 am

Emilio wrote: I have 3 Ibm T43 and I know like change the fun, so I dont think that is a problem of installation.
I'd still check whether the heatsink pipes possibly got bent during installation, and that the heatsink itself is sitting properly.

Take it - or don't - from someone who has worked on more T43/p units than 99% of the mankind and still got the pipes messed up on a couple of occasions.

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