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X300 overclocking settings.

#1 Post by Scorpiontico » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:34 pm

i have overclocked and tested my x300 of a 266872u t43 + 1gb ram with centrino hardware control 1.7 and atitools 0.24 by 25% from its default settings = 375/285... do you think this is ok? what are your settings? ...?

chc and atitools can still overclock the x300 some more but i dont want to exceed the 25% that i already have for it because im afraid to mess something up.

any comments or suggestions are very appriciated!

thanks.

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*i also have set an underclock setting for the x300 of a 25% = 225/170, is it ok?, ...?*
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#2 Post by Navck » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:42 pm

350/300 = Instant screen messup... Yet I still get the floppy preformance of "15 FPS" average in ATI Tool... Not very happy right now with my Thinkpad being unable to play something simple as Command and Conquer Generals...
324/280.8 is what I have for "gaming mode" for now.

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#3 Post by Scorpiontico » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:52 pm

Navck wrote:350/300 = Instant screen messup... Yet I still get the floppy preformance of "15 FPS" average in ATI Tool... Not very happy right now with my Thinkpad being unable to play something simple as Command and Conquer Generals...
324/280.8 is what I have for "gaming mode" for now.
i overclock based on percent of original default settings (logically), for instance the same percent i use to overclock/underclock the core i also use to overclock and undeclock the memory, therefore i basically do not mess too much with the settings order but maybe with its limits.

and dude! use my settings and see what happens with c&c (25% increasement)
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#4 Post by Navck » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:53 pm

Do me a favor, open your ATI Clock tool, and open the 3D window. Whats your average FPS listed as?

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#5 Post by Scorpiontico » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:55 pm

Navck wrote:Do me a favor, open your ATI Clock tool, and open the 3D window. Whats your average FPS listed as?
35 with the 25% increasement.

i play unreal 2004 so friggin full of graphics and action!

if youre getting 15 avg then [censored] i think your lappy has a big problem.
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#6 Post by kaplanfx » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:57 pm

Navck: at the default of 320/210 on my T42 with a radeon 9600 64MB I get an average fps of 46. Sounds like something may be wrong with your system. Are you sure the drivers are installed properly?

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#7 Post by Scorpiontico » Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:00 am

kaplanfx wrote:Navck: at the default of 320/210 on my T42 with a radeon 9600 64MB I get an average fps of 46. Sounds like something may be wrong with your system. Are you sure the drivers are installed properly?

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wow 46! thats nice, are you using omega drivers? or the catalyst's ones, which version?

navck something must be really wrong with your thinkpad.
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#8 Post by kaplanfx » Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:03 am

Catalyst 5.6 patched with patje's catalyst mod for mobility tool. Also note I am plugged in and have all my system settings on max performace when I run this. If I clock of a few mhz I can push it all the way to 50fps but the machine gets to the high 50's in temp so I usually call it quits before I break much past 50.

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P.S. its possible I get more fps because the 9600 does not enable all the dx9 features???
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#9 Post by Navck » Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:09 am

Catalyst 4.12 (Mind showing me a link to a nice newer driver, or do the Omega drivers work)

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#10 Post by kaplanfx » Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:19 am

Navck: just get the 5.6 driver from ati.com but make sure you don't get the CCC (catalyst control center) version as it has a funky .net thing going on that causes the cpu to trottle up to 100% usage every few seconds and can really kill your battery life. Once you have the non CCC catalyst drivers (it'll be the smaller package, in the 20MB's range rather than 33 for the CCC ver.) you'll need patje's mod. You can find patje's mod at this page: http://www.driverheaven.net/patje/ just follow the instructions carefully and you should have the 5.6 drivers installed in no time. I'm a newb when it comes to ATI stuff so I'm sorry I can't be of more help tracking down your problem, but getting the newest drivers is the first step.

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#11 Post by nirvana0001 » Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:22 am

how about v3200?? any idea??
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#12 Post by kaplanfx » Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:25 am

nirvana0001 wrote:how about v3200?? any idea??
I've never heard of that card, is that a fireGL card???

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#13 Post by Navck » Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:26 am

V3200 is a FireGL card...
Hmm 32FPS. But huge amomunts of stuttering.

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#14 Post by nirvana0001 » Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:37 am

Navck wrote:V3200 is a FireGL card...
Hmm 32FPS. But huge amomunts of stuttering.
do you have v3200?? what clock are you setting at?
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#15 Post by nirvana0001 » Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:44 am

Navck wrote:Do me a favor, open your ATI Clock tool, and open the 3D window. Whats your average FPS listed as?
where is the ATI Clock tool?
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Re: X300 overclocking settings.

#16 Post by Scorpiontico » Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:57 pm

guys could help me with this before changing the subject (again)?:
Scorpiontico wrote:i have overclocked and tested my x300 of a 266872u t43 + 1gb ram with centrino hardware control 1.7 and atitools 0.24 by 25% from its default settings = 375/285... do you think this is ok? what are your settings? ...?

chc and atitools can still overclock the x300 some more but i dont want to exceed the 25% that i already have for it because im afraid to mess something up.

any comments or suggestions are very appriciated!

thanks.

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*i also have set an underclock setting for the x300 of a 25% = 225/170, is it ok?, ...?*
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Re: X300 overclocking settings.

#17 Post by kaplanfx » Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:17 pm

Scorpiontico wrote:i have overclocked and tested my x300 of a 266872u t43 + 1gb ram with centrino hardware control 1.7 and atitools 0.24 by 25% from its default settings = 375/285... do you think this is ok? what are your settings? ...?

chc and atitools can still overclock the x300 some more but i dont want to exceed the 25% that i already have for it because im afraid to mess something up.

any comments or suggestions are very appriciated!

thanks.

ps:links and other posts welcomed.

*i also have set an underclock setting for the x300 of a 25% = 225/170, is it ok?, ...?*
Did you try using find max in the ati tool? It is possible you could damage the components if you clock too high, but as long as you go in small increments you will most likely only freeze the machine but should have no serious long term effects. Just make sure you test the gpu and the memory speeds independent of eachother and go easy on the memory clock.

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#18 Post by Scorpiontico » Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:57 pm

kaplanfx wrote:Navck: just get the 5.6 driver from ati.com but make sure you don't get the CCC (catalyst control center) version as it has a funky .net thing going on that causes the cpu to trottle up to 100% usage every few seconds and can really kill your battery life. Once you have the non CCC catalyst drivers (it'll be the smaller package, in the 20MB's range rather than 33 for the CCC ver.) you'll need patje's mod. You can find patje's mod at this page: http://www.driverheaven.net/patje/ just follow the instructions carefully and you should have the 5.6 drivers installed in no time. I'm a newb when it comes to ATI stuff so I'm sorry I can't be of more help tracking down your problem, but getting the newest drivers is the first step.

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dude should i uninstall the drivers and software that i already have for my x300...or what?

could please please write a guide or at least what you do?

thanks

ps: what i have is: control panel, display driver and hydravision (all ati).

*another thing, lets say i have everything installed and working (catalyst 5.6 and patched by patje), SHOULD i (could i) still overclock/downclock the card?... what does the patch ACTUALLY do based on your experience with it?
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#19 Post by kaplanfx » Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:37 pm

Scorpiontico wrote: dude should i uninstall the drivers and software that i already have for my x300...or what?

could please please write a guide or at least what you do?

thanks

ps: what i have is: control panel, display driver and hydravision (all ati).

*another thing, lets say i have everything installed and working (catalyst 5.6 and patched by patje), SHOULD i (could i) still overclock/downclock the card?... what does the patch ACTUALLY do based on your experience with it?
I did not uninstall anything, and the catalyst install seemed to go fine (except for my first try when I installed the CCC version) I have the 9600 so I'm not sure if it will be the same for the X300 but it should be. My hydravision seems to be working still, although I don't use it.

Yes after you install the catalyst drivers you can still over/underclock the card. Infact, powerplay seems to be working just fine after the driver upgrade. Also the ATI tool still works identically to before and my profiles are all still there to enable. All in all if you follow my instructions along with patje's instructions everything should go well. I have seen no ill effects and some improvement in direct3d programs so all in all I would say it was a success. Good luck, and you can P.M. me if you have any specific questions.

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#20 Post by Scorpiontico » Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:46 pm

dude "ps: what i have is: control panel, display driver and hydravision (all ati)."... what did you have before you installed the catalyst and applied the patch... what im understanding is that i should just go ahead install catalyst and then patch it... (leave the software that is already installed in my t43/that came with my t43) i ask you this because i wonder if catalyst will conflict with "ati control center" or "ati display driver".

thanks you rock!

kaplanfx wrote:
Scorpiontico wrote: dude should i uninstall the drivers and software that i already have for my x300...or what?

could please please write a guide or at least what you do?

thanks

ps: what i have is: control panel, display driver and hydravision (all ati).

*another thing, lets say i have everything installed and working (catalyst 5.6 and patched by patje), SHOULD i (could i) still overclock/downclock the card?... what does the patch ACTUALLY do based on your experience with it?
I did not uninstall anything, and the catalyst install seemed to go fine (except for my first try when I installed the CCC version) I have the 9600 so I'm not sure if it will be the same for the X300 but it should be. My hydravision seems to be working still, although I don't use it.

Yes after you install the catalyst drivers you can still over/underclock the card. Infact, powerplay seems to be working just fine after the driver upgrade. Also the ATI tool still works identically to before and my profiles are all still there to enable. All in all if you follow my instructions along with patje's instructions everything should go well. I have seen no ill effects and some improvement in direct3d programs so all in all I would say it was a success. Good luck, and you can P.M. me if you have any specific questions.

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#21 Post by kaplanfx » Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:51 pm

Nope, no conflict that I have noticed, some of that stuff is updated by the catalyst driver (hydravision?). Patje's patch is real nice. First you try to install the catalyst driver. It will error out saying no hardware could be found, but the key thing is that it has extracted itself to C:\ati which is exactly what you want. You then run patje's mod tool and select your card from the list. It patches a dll to make the driver "see" your hardware and everything installs great. After installation the ATI control panel in display properties still reports my card as a 9600, there is nothing "weird" about it, all the features are enabled and you will be all up to date.

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#22 Post by Scorpiontico » Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:59 pm

"It will error out saying no hardware could be found"

wow that doesnt sound good, but ill see what happens thanks for everything... ps:maybe its because that catalyst version is designed for x800 and x700 cards.
kaplanfx wrote:Nope, no conflict that I have noticed, some of that stuff is updated by the catalyst driver (hydravision?). Patje's patch is real nice. First you try to install the catalyst driver. It will error out saying no hardware could be found, but the key thing is that it has extracted itself to C:\ati which is exactly what you want. You then run patje's mod tool and select your card from the list. It patches a dll to make the driver "see" your hardware and everything installs great. After installation the ATI control panel in display properties still reports my card as a 9600, there is nothing "weird" about it, all the features are enabled and you will be all up to date.

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#23 Post by kaplanfx » Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:37 am

Actually its because the catalyst driver isn't designed for your card, but you need to attempt to install it so it extracts the files to your drive. After the first attempt the drivers are extracted so you are able to patch them. The error is nothing to worry about, in fact it is the expected behavior.

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#24 Post by Scorpiontico » Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:51 pm

kaplanfx wrote:Actually its because the catalyst driver isn't designed for your card, but you need to attempt to install it so it extracts the files to your drive. After the first attempt the drivers are extracted so you are able to patch them. The error is nothing to worry about, in fact it is the expected behavior.

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you forgot some other more steps to do after patching files... but its ok i quickly figured out, so now i run unreal2004 on highest settings and doom3 well i have tried high settings but im affraid i could be toasting my gpu... i dont know! someone make some comments here (based on overclocking a x300 by a 25%).

thanks alot kaplanfx
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#25 Post by HamTard » Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:10 pm

Scorpiontico wrote: you forgot some other more steps to do after patching files... but its ok i quickly figured out, so now i run unreal2004 on highest settings and doom3 well i have tried high settings but im affraid i could be toasting my gpu... i dont know! someone make some comments here (based on overclocking a x300 by a 25%).

thanks alot kaplanfx
What sort of framerates do you get running Doom3 with your overclocked X300 T43? What resolution and settings do you play at? What framerate can you get at medium settings with 1024x768 resolution?

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