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T42p with R52 ATI board

#1 Post by MKnight » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:15 pm

As much that I hate forums and this site's draconian rules (it's $CURRENT_YEAR+1 and you guys still have a rule about huge images? REALLY?), help me out. I just bought a T42p with a dead board and I'd like to get it going just for the heck of it.

I already did a hybrid build of a R50e chassis with a R52 board but I like the T-series chassis more.

TL;DR: T42p(FV?!) with dead board, can I swap my R52 ATI X300 board?

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Re: T42p with R52 ATI board

#2 Post by kfzhu1229 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:51 pm

Yes you can but the pcmcia cage is not the same one from a T42 because of one expresscard slot. T42p fan should work just fine, network card is fine too. But Bluetooth, CPU and RAM ARE different. A T42p CPU posts just fine but it's strongly NOT recommended while RAM wont fit at all and Bluetooth module will throw you 1803 error
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Re: T42p with R52 ATI board

#3 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:51 pm

MKnight wrote:As much that I hate forums and this site's draconian rules (it's $CURRENT_YEAR+1 and you guys still have a rule about huge images? REALLY?), help me out. I just bought a T42p with a dead board and I'd like to get it going just for the heck of it.

I already did a hybrid build of a R50e chassis with a R52 board but I like the T-series chassis more.

TL;DR: T42p(FV?!) with dead board, can I swap my R52 ATI X300 board?
Doubt it, they have slightly different builds. Its like a 15.4" T60 board in a 4:3 T60, it almosts fits but not quite.

You can always try.
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Re: T42p with R52 ATI board

#4 Post by MKnight » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:06 pm

kfzhu1229 wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:51 pm
Yes you can but the pcmcia cage is not the same one from a T42 because of one expresscard slot. T42p fan should work just fine, network card is fine too. But Bluetooth, CPU and RAM ARE different. A T42p CPU posts just fine but it's strongly NOT recommended while RAM wont fit at all and Bluetooth module will throw you 1803 error
"Yes you can but the pcmcia cage is not the same one from a T42 because of one expresscard slot."

No big thing, I don't want to use a eGPU or PCcard on it anyway.

"A T42p CPU posts just fine but it's strongly NOT recommended"

Are you kidding? I see no problem in using a P-M 745 (400 FSB Dothan) CPU with a pinmod.

As for RAM & BT: No big thing either, DDR2 1 GB modules is something I have way too many of anyway.

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Re: T42p with R52 ATI board

#5 Post by TPFanatic » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:22 pm

R50 and T40 series boards are the same.

Only conflict arises if the R50 board has a firewire since there's no firewire hole in T40 chassis. Or if you put something else into an R50e, since R50e chassis is missing holes for certain ports (eg. S-Video, docking).
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Re: T42p with R52 ATI board

#6 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:24 pm

TPFanatic wrote:R50 and T40 series boards are the same.

Only conflict arises if the R50 board has a firewire since there's no firewire hole in T40 chassis. Or if you put something else into an R50e, since R50e chassis is missing holes for certain ports (eg. S-Video, docking).
Dremels are there for that :)
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Re: T42p with R52 ATI board

#7 Post by kfzhu1229 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:43 pm

MKnight wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:06 pm
Are you kidding? I see no problem in using a P-M 745 (400 FSB Dothan) CPU with a pinmod.
Well never used that before as that prevents this machine from installing Windows 10. I use Windows 10 on all of my t43 laptops
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Re: T42p with R52 ATI board

#8 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:48 am

Have a look at my list of T4x and R5x motherboards: http://theboardroom.info/ibm_list.html
There are more than 100 varieties, I gave up collecting more info 5 years ago.
EVERY motherboard in that list will fit in EVERY T4x/R5x chassis, apart from the R50e and R51e, which have no opening for the dock-connector (and possibly more, never seen one).
The firewire-port is easily removable (can be unplugged and is only glued to the PCMCIA cage), so no problem there.
As already stated above:
T43/R52 have 533 MT/s CPUs, DDR2 RAM and different PCMCIA cages from previous T4x/R5x models
T40/T41/T42/R50/R51 have 400 MT/s CPUs, DDR RAM and different PCMCIA cages from T43/R52
Since CPUs for T43/R52 are so cheap, why bother with a pinmod?

T43/R52 also have a modded BIOS available (made by TTAV134) which supplies Slic2.1 and removes Error 1802 (wifi) and Error 2010 (HD)
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Re: T42p with R52 ATI board

#9 Post by axur-delmeria » Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:56 am

I've transplanted the board from a 14-inch R52 into the chassis of a 14-inch T42. As RealBlackStuff said, the Firewire port has to go.

Also, keep track of all the screws and brackets.
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Re: T42p with R52 ATI board

#10 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:50 pm

axur-delmeria wrote:I've transplanted the board from a 14-inch R52 into the chassis of a 14-inch T42. As RealBlackStuff said, the Firewire port has to go.

Also, keep track of all the screws and brackets.
I tore apart many thinkpads and I think they have more weight on screws than anything else :) .
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