Blutooth/Active Synch Problem on T41

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Blutooth/Active Synch Problem on T41

#1 Post by Johnf1938 » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:10 am

I cannot get Bluetooth to link with my HP2210 PDA via Active Synch.
I have had this working previously if not very reliably.
I can establish a passkey betwwen them using Bluetooth Device on Com Ports 16 & 17 but Active Synch only shows Com Port 1.
Device manager shows Com Ports 2 to 17 as In Use, Why?
I can not get any responce from the TP Bluetooth Configurator.
Tried turning serial ports off and then on again.
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#2 Post by snife » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:18 am

I notice this is something that can happen if you reconfigure the bluetooth software a lot - my advice would be to uninstall bluetooth software and activesync, reboot and reinstall bluetooth software add a virtual serial port and it should go to com 2-4 then install activesync and it will let you use that port.

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#3 Post by Johnf1938 » Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:28 am

Snife, Thanks for the reply. I have uninstalled the IBM Intregated Bluetooth II and Microsoft Bluetooth Enumerator from Device Manager. They reinstall when I turn Bluetooth back on. I cannot find how to uninstall Bluetooth Devices. It is not listed in Control Panel/Add or Remove Programs.
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#4 Post by snife » Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:33 am

It should definately be listed - reinstall it and see if they then have it in add/remove programs

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#5 Post by ctbenski » Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:52 am

John, Snife probably meant you should not uninstall devices in device manager but rather uninstall the whole Bluetooth software using add/remove in Control Panel. Then reboot and install software again. Look for it in Add/remove, it should be somewhere. It may be listed as Widcomm or Broadcomm, not necesarily Bluetooth.
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#6 Post by sugo » Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:00 am

Look for IBM Bluetooth Software in Add/Remove Programs.
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#7 Post by Johnf1938 » Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:56 am

Still cannot find them. Also looked in IBM Software Installer.
In Control Panel, Bluetooth Devices has no Poperties,only Open & Create Shortcut, Significant ?
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#8 Post by snife » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:14 am

So it says Bluetooth Devices and not Bluetooth Configuration?

That may suggest you have never had the IBM software - go to www.thinkpad.com and download the bluetooth software for your machine and install it.

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#9 Post by Johnf1938 » Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:55 pm

Ok will do that.
I also had IBM Intregrated Bluetooth II which I have uninstalled.
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#10 Post by Johnf1938 » Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:13 pm

I have found new install instructions on IBM site. Now have IBM Integrated II software installed and shows in device manager and listed in ADD/Remove. Microsoft Enumerator no longer in device manager as I would expect from instructions. Bluetooth Configuration listed in Control Panel.
However, Bluetooth Device is still listed in Control Panel, should this be so?
If so, which software should I use to pair HP2210 PDA which I have not been able to do so far.
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#11 Post by snife » Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:07 pm

Use the My Bluetooth Places software that the ThinkPad software installed. It should be a blue and white icon in your notification area. Set up a virtual serial port in there and then set your active sync software to sync over this com number.

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#12 Post by Johnf1938 » Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:45 am

The Virtual com port is now at 22. Tried uninstalling the IBM software & reinstalling again. Bluetooth Device is still in Control Panel.
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#13 Post by Johnf1938 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:51 am

I have not managed to get Bluetooth working yet. I have removed all the drivers from the system & then installed again but am still stuck with the high com port numbers like com 17. I have also removed com ports from the registery but they just come back. I have looked at all the documentation I can find from IBM. Anyone got any other ideas?
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#14 Post by Johnf1938 » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:24 pm

I found the solution to the problem on the "geekzone.co.nz" forum as follows.
Thanks for all the help. Regards John.
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Ok you have loaded some different Bluetooth software and now the lowest COM port you are getting is in the 10+ range? You've uninstalled and reinstalled until your blue! This is for you then.

There is a difference between hidden and nonpresent devices.

To see nonpresent devices in Device Manager, open a command prompt:

C:\> set DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
C:\> devmgmt.msc

Then on Device manager click | View | Show hidden" devices | and your nonpresent devices will appear. You can then delete nonpresent devices like your old adapter, or you can delete both instances and XP will reinstall it with a name more to your liking.

To put this environment variable into XP permanently, open SystemControl Panel, Advanced tab, Environment Variables button, System Variables:

DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1

David
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