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3x nearly new T42, should I fit the long cooling fan?

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3x nearly new T42, should I fit the long cooling fan?

#1 Post by 2000volts » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:35 pm

Hello there,

I recently acquired 3 nearly new T42's (one of them still have that covering plastic on hdd/turn on lights). CMOS obviously dead but I was able to revive 2 out of three batteries and it is showing 77 and 43 cycles - and the condition of laptops can confirm that - as subject shows - nearly new! So... Two of them I'd like to use as gaming machines as me and my wife like to play Age of Empires, Age of Mythology etc.. (big battles with wine and whisky:-) Just them old classic games. All three of them show 05/09 date of make with red glue spots - and now here is my question - can I fit that long cooling fan from t42p/t43p even if it's ATI7500? Will it help? I was trying to dig in this forum but not too deep as 340 pages odd is above my time abilities... Otherwise, the third one I'd like to use as my experimental piece to fit Pentium M 755 2GHz, put 2 Gb ram and 60 Gb SSD and see if it can handle youtube at least at 420p... or any other suggestions appreciated ;-) Thanks for all replies :-)

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Re: 3x nearly new T42, should I fit the long cooling fan?

#2 Post by ajkula66 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:29 pm

In my experience, long fan will do nothing for the longevity/performance of ATi 7500 on a T4x system.

Keeping the machine on at all times, running TPFC and undervolting the CPU is likely to yield real results.

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Re: 3x nearly new T42, should I fit the long cooling fan?

#3 Post by Screamer » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:15 am

2000volts wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:35 pm
can I fit that long cooling fan from t42p/t43p even if it's ATI7500? Will it help?
You could, but the only improvement that you would receive from that particular upgrade would be better cooling for the Mobility Radeon 7500. The lifespan and the performance of the graphics chip would not change though, as ajkula66 had stated earlier.
2000volts wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:35 pm
Otherwise, the third one I'd like to use as my experimental piece to fit Pentium M 755 2GHz, put 2 Gb ram and 60 Gb SSD and see if it can handle youtube at least at 420p
Playing 480p videos on YouTube is... too optimistic, especially with a Pentium M 755. The most you would get from running a Dothan at 2GHz, would be just some stutter and the occasional audio or video desynchronization. It is made worse if you are running Windows 7 on these machines.

My experience with playing 480p videos on YouTube, with a Pentium 4 HT 3.4GHz (Northwood), was not too splendid either. Hyperthreading on the Northwood had to be enabled to remove the stutter, and that would still leave the desynchronization going rampant. If I can recall, I was running Windows Server 2003 R2 at that point of time.

If you can deal with the slight desynchronization and stutter, I would recommend installing Windows XP or Windows 2000 for the most optimal performance.

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Re: 3x nearly new T42, should I fit the long cooling fan?

#4 Post by axur-delmeria » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:39 am

The overhead from the web browser will eat up CPU cycles that could be used for decoding the video stream. It' might be better to download youtube videos using youtube-dl, then using a standalone video player like VLC or mplayer.
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Re: 3x nearly new T42, should I fit the long cooling fan?

#5 Post by 2000volts » Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:56 pm

Thanks for all replies - I had some wine yesterday and under influence of that delicious drink I've ordered that long fan and cpu, so we'll see. I've tried the puppy linux on it yesterday with 1.7GHz and 1.5Gb ram and it was nearly there - I'd say watchable at 360p. What about to try that FreeBSD? Have never tried that but I'll probably give a try - have you got any experience with that? By the way, we're now playing AOE II and it's amazing - beating my wife a she doesn't like it :D :D :D

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Re: 3x nearly new T42, should I fit the long cooling fan?

#6 Post by TPFanatic » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:22 pm

You will be able to browse decently with a lightweight browser called Slimjet. No other browser worked for me on my Pentium M ThinkPad Z60m.
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Re: 3x nearly new T42, should I fit the long cooling fan?

#7 Post by w0qj » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:41 pm

<<Slight tangent to OP's topic>>

Wow, lightweight browser Slimjet (we tried 64-bit edition) is VERY nice!

We especially liked that when we start all webpages in Incognito Mode, there's no stupid Incognito symbol in front the tab.
Don't laugh; when you have 30+ tabs in Incognito Mode, all tab widths shrink the the point where *all* tabs only show the Incognito symbol, all looking the same!
[Edit: Both Chrome and Opera had above flaw]

Slimjet is built from the ground up for privacy; my only wish is that Slimjet would allow an option for users to run Addons Incognito Mode (you cannot).
eg: Disable Video Autoplay, Super Auto Refresh Plus, etc.

All in all, a VERY nice lightweight browser, many thanks!
Slimjet may become our main browser for daily viewing...
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You will be able to browse decently with a lightweight browser called Slimjet. No other browser worked for me on my Pentium M ThinkPad Z60m.
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Re: 3x nearly new T42, should I fit the long cooling fan?

#8 Post by 2000volts » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:05 pm

TPFanatic wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:22 pm
You will be able to browse decently with a lightweight browser called Slimjet. No other browser worked for me on my Pentium M ThinkPad Z60m.
I must thank you as well - this browser is absolutely excellent!!

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