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T43 shuts down 15 minutes into XP install

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Re: T43 shuts down 15 minutes into XP install

#31 Post by kfzhu1229 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:51 pm

astral wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:08 pm
Is that better or is that worse? the card itself gets hot, wouldn't that just move more heat onto the southbridge?
AFAIK the card gets the hottest on the front side that's not facing the southbridge. If you're worried about that you can also cool that as well. Besides, that card doesn't get burning hot whereas the southbridge on these things do.
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Re: T43 shuts down 15 minutes into XP install

#32 Post by Gonzaleitor » Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:59 pm

I'm not using the Card, so i Guess is idle. I don't mow why the SB gets SO hot, but if the laptop is alive after all this years...

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Re: T43 shuts down 15 minutes into XP install

#33 Post by kfzhu1229 » Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:37 am

Gonzaleitor wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:59 pm
I'm not using the Card, so i Guess is idle. I don't mow why the SB gets SO hot, but if the laptop is alive after all this years...
It helps if you are never using the card, switch it off using the Fn + F5 hotkey.
Yeah this Sonoma generation of southbridges are notorious for running hot, they are kinda like taking the previous generation southbridges found on the ThinkPad T42 and then just overclocked the BSEL to match the 133mhz that's 1/4 of the 533mhz CPU FSB
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Re: T43 shuts down 15 minutes into XP install

#34 Post by RealBlackStuff » Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:19 pm

Remove that wifi-card, it will save energy and keeps the machine cooler.
What about ethernet instead?
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Re: T43 shuts down 15 minutes into XP install

#35 Post by Gonzaleitor » Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:01 pm

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:19 pm
Remove that wifi-card, it will save energy and keeps the machine cooler.
What about ethernet instead?
Are You sure that dissipation is better without the Card making contact?
kfzhu1229 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:37 am
Gonzaleitor wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:59 pm
I'm not using the Card, so i Guess is idle. I don't mow why the SB gets SO hot, but if the laptop is alive after all this years...
It helps if you are never using the card, switch it off using the Fn + F5 hotkey.
Yeah this Sonoma generation of southbridges are notorious for running hot, they are kinda like taking the previous generation southbridges found on the ThinkPad T42 and then just overclocked the BSEL to match the 133mhz that's 1/4 of the 533mhz CPU FSB
It seems like it. The SB gets hotter than the GPU and i was thinking of attaching a Cooper Pipe to it and the Pipe to the heatsink. What do You think?

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Re: T43 shuts down 15 minutes into XP install

#36 Post by astral » Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:18 pm

this is why i need to get some bga equip. and skills.
just reball the chip when it fails, new solder will prevent further issues to a point as it's not 2005 early lead-free garbage.

could even probably make some money off of it if i got good enough. buy dead t4x laptops, reball them, sell on as working and reworked, which will make them more reliable then they were originally.
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Re: T43 shuts down 15 minutes into XP install

#37 Post by Gonzaleitor » Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:05 pm

That would be cool. Anyway, I don't want mine to die, they are scarce down here...

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Re: T43 shuts down 15 minutes into XP install

#38 Post by kfzhu1229 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:34 am

Gonzaleitor wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:01 pm
It seems like it. The SB gets hotter than the GPU and i was thinking of attaching a Cooper Pipe to it and the Pipe to the heatsink. What do You think?
Again I just routed the copper pipes to the PCMCIA cage. on my T43p the GPU gets extra hot too and the GPU end up desoldering itself instead (screen goes blank until I push down on the graphics chip), so that at least says that my copper rig worked
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Re: T43 shuts down 15 minutes into XP install

#39 Post by Gonzaleitor » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:25 pm

I have the x300, maybe that runs a tad cooler. But i'm going the PCMCIA way too, i guess.

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