T23 & CD/DVD

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T23 & CD/DVD

#1 Post by jcnj6 » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:20 pm

I have had a T23 for about a year. last week the CD Drive stopped working right, possibly not running at full speed. I can access the directory, but cannot run CD intensive games. I may have left it in my car on a hot day for a couple hours which may have caused the problem???
So, I think I need to replace the drive. I looked at IBM.com and find several replacement units listed. I like the idea of upgrading to a DVD burner but I wonder if my T23 can really run it efficiently.
If I buy from a third party, will the same part numbers found on IBM.com insure compatability, i.e. is the info on their website reliable?

Does anyone have any words of wisdom?

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#2 Post by mysbca » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:28 pm

I recommend getting the NEC ND-6650 drive from Newegg for $100:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6827152048

It is a high quality 8X DVD+/-R burner and can burn dual layers at 4X. The IBM drives can not burn dual layers.
Dual layer discs are still very expensive, but you never know.

I am using the older NEC ND-6500 in my T23 with no problems. I have had to upgrade to Nero 6 to get support for this drive though.

You will need to take the back connector and the side rails from your bad CD drive and attach it to the NEC drive. You will also need to cut a notch in the lower right corner of the faceplate from the NEC drive so it does not block the pull-out lever of the ultrabay slot.

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Re: T23 & CD/DVD

#3 Post by GomJabbar » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:47 am

jcnj6 wrote:I have had a T23 for about a year. last week the CD Drive stopped working right, possibly not running at full speed. I can access the directory, but cannot run CD intensive games.

Does anyone have any words of wisdom?

Thanks
Rich J
Go into device manager, and check under IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers > 'Primary IDE Channel' & 'Secondary IDE Channel' > Advanced Settings. Verify the current transfer mode is DMA (usually the hard drive is on the Primary IDE Channel, and the CD drive is on the Secondary IDE Channel. Try changing to DMA mode there. If you are unsuccessful, right click and uninstall everything under IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers, then reboot. Windows should reinstall the drivers, and repair the DMA mode problem. It happened to me once.
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#4 Post by ZaZ » Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:52 am

I would second the 6650. It is a very good laptop burner which is good to know cause there are a lot of crappy laptop DVD burners out there. I have the slightly older 6500 in an external case for my T42. It does very good burns. I would also recommend Taiyo Yuden DVD+R discs. The NEC will burn them in about 10.5 minutes which is very good for a laptop burner. I am assuming the 6650 is the same. FujiFilm discs marked Made in Japan sold at BestBuy and elsewhere are TYs. You can also get them at places like Rima.com. The T23 has more than enough juice to run the NEC. I have seen DVD burners work on PIIs. Good Luck.

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#5 Post by Nolonemo » Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:16 am

The NEC will work fine. Be aware that you will have to cut a notch in the faceplate to match the IBM notch, but that's easily done. Best deal out there, IMO.
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#6 Post by baraider » Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:51 am

interesting....so this NEC will fit into a t23 after cuting a hole

will it fit the new T4x when i upgrade them later on? I think the 4x has a slim drive while the t23 has a different drive size?
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#7 Post by mysbca » Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:04 pm

baraider wrote:will it fit the new T4x when i upgrade them later on? I think the 4x has a slim drive while the t23 has a different drive size?
No, the NEC drive will not fit a T4x slot. The NEC drive is 12.7mm thick while the T4x slim drive is 9.5mm thick. You can put the NEC drive in a slim USB enclosure. I think someone mentioned that it can be USB powered.

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#8 Post by JHEM » Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:05 pm

baraider wrote:will it fit the new T4x when i upgrade them later on?
No. Too big for the 9.5mm bay on the T4X machines.

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Nero 6

#9 Post by jcnj6 » Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:22 pm

I went to Newegg and plan on getting the drive. I have searched and found several versions of Nero 6 for a wide range of prices. Newegg has 2 versions but I cant see the difference except the model #. Ebay has lots of Nero6 but for 1/3 the price.

Any wisdom about what I am looking at, what to look for, and what to avoid?

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#10 Post by MadeInJapan » Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:17 am

All those getting the NEC, check out: www.cdfreaks.com and go to their forum section and then search the NEC drive. You'll be amazed at all that can be done with this little guy....firmware updates, bitsetting burning of DVD's, etc., etc. Have fun!
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#11 Post by cruzlite » Sun Sep 11, 2005 6:28 am

jcnj6,

"I went to Newegg and plan on getting the drive. I have searched and found several versions of Nero 6 for a wide range of prices. Newegg has 2 versions but I cant see the difference except the model #. Ebay has lots of Nero6 but for 1/3 the price.

Any wisdom about what I am looking at, what to look for, and what to avoid? "
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Install only the oem...(It comes w/ suite of programs)...

'IBM' DLA will conflict with Nero 6.6 oem...I uninstall it FIRST...
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#12 Post by MadeInJapan » Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:15 am

I belive that with a credit card, you can buy Nero on-line and download it. Also, it tends to come with DVD drives and burners. I'm thinking that you might get a free copy with the NEC you're about to drive. Why not wait and see?
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#13 Post by ZaZ » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:08 am

You can get an OEM copy of Nero on eBay for $10 or less. The 6650 at NewEgg is a bare drive. It has no software. If you want to go the free route. CDBurnerXP and DeepBurner are free and work well for basic stuff.
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