Pentium M 1.7 Ghz = "Pentium II class" ?

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Pentium M 1.7 Ghz = "Pentium II class" ?

#1 Post by cruzlite » Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:18 am

I recently ran 'recovery 5.8 (98-2000) from the pre-desktop area of my new T41...
I was somewhat dismayed when the program recognized my Pm 735
as a Pentium II class processor...@7xx ghz
Is this the program...seeing the Pm between idle & max
or is the Pentium m 735 @1.7 ghz a PII class processor?

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#2 Post by jdhurst » Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:19 am

IIRC as I saw those screens, it is just PKZIP for DOS reporting that it found a P II. Just an old program and not reflective of your actual processor. ... JD Hurst

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#3 Post by K. Eng » Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:37 am

The reason this happens is because the PM is classified as a "Family 6" type processor in it's CPUID (hardware in the processor that identifies the CPU).

For example, my Banias core Pentium M is "x86 Family 6 Model 9 Stepping 5".

Pentium M derives its lineage from the P6 architecture, which was the underlying structure behind the Pentium Pro, Pentium II, and Pentium III processors. This doesn't mean, however, that Pentium M is a "Pentium II" class processor in terms of performance. Pentium M has significant improvements over the Pentium II/III CPUs. They are related, but not in the same performance class.
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#4 Post by cruzlite » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:56 am

THanks to jdhurst & K.Eng...very informative indeed...

My notes on the recovery are limitted, however, I did get the impression that the program was written in 1998 and revised in 2000...
Is this the case, or are the numbers referring to Windows 98 & 2000?
Either way...does seem like an old program for reinstall???

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#5 Post by jdhurst » Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:17 pm

The only way (I know of) do deal with an NTFS volume is with a Microsoft Windows XP Pre-Environment system or a Linux Boot CD method. The first method is pricey because you need a license for the machine. The second method is much cheaper (may even be free) but hasn't been all that common in production circles until recently.

So IBM still uses DOS (and so PKZIP for DOS) to bootstrap the hard drive with recovery sofware and does so with the hard drive set up as FAT (DOS accessible). The first thing any recent IBM ThinkPad or Desktop does is convert to NTFS (even before you fully have it set up).

I am seeing IBM Servers now using Linux Boot CD to set up their servers directly with NTFS to make them ready for an OS install. I have done several Windows 2003 servers like that recently.

I expect all of this will continue to evolve. It isn't clear when Microsoft will bring out their new file system, but that may cause installations to change. ... JD Hurst

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#6 Post by cruzlite » Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:05 am

A final ...(end/this round of edits{ 9-17-05...

thanks to JD.....

Your knowledge & ability to share concisely are greatly valued indeed!!!!
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