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Screen flex?

#1 Post by Trip » Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:22 pm

So I'm probably going to return my T42 for so many reasons, but I think a deciding factor is going to be this screen flex.

I'm not sure if I'm just especially abusive, but my screen flexes very readily when I push on the left side with medium pressure, twist the screen by the corners, or even tap hard on the back, and all this causes massive distortion. Is this normal? Or are my expectations too high?

Thanks in advance!
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#2 Post by mntbikeracer1 » Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:09 am

Well since IBM uses some of the sturdiest laptop housings around you are going to have a hard time finding a laptop with less screen flex. Plastic shells like Dell, and HP are going to be really flexy.

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#3 Post by Trip » Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:58 am

Well, right beside me there's a Dell 1150, and that screen does not flex or distort one bit no matter how hard I push, and there's only the tiniest bit of distortion when I twist it. Now that laptop is built like a tank. A plastic tank, but a tank nonetheless.

That's the only other laptop that I've had extensive experience with, so it's sort of my benchmark.
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#4 Post by Navck » Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:03 am

Are... You sure?
I saw a Dell booth in the store, 2200, I pushed the screen lightly, it twisted completely... Then I asked the Dell guy and he had no explination for why it was so flimsy..
My T43 however, no matter HOW much I try (Not breaking point), it will not twist..

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#5 Post by Trip » Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:28 am

Trust me. I don't know about Dell's current cheap models, but the 1150 is solid. Even my friend's 6000 feels sturdier than my T42.

Navck, does your T43 have a 14" screen or a 15" one?
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#6 Post by K. Eng » Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:31 am

That doesn't sound normal. None of the things you described caused any distortion on my display. I wonder if the panel is improperly mounted in the display housing.
Trip wrote:my screen is flexes very readily when I push on the left side with medium pressure, twist the screen by the corners, or even tap hard on the back, and all this causes massive distortion. Is this normal? Or are my expectations too high?
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#7 Post by Trip » Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:17 pm

That doesn't sound normal. None of the things you described caused any distortion on my display. I wonder if the panel is improperly mounted in the display housing.
That's what I've begun to think as well. Applying pressure on some parts of the screen can cause distortions across a large area of the screen, which just can't be right.

Well, thanks for your input. Looks like I'll be sending this lappy back.

Hopefully I have better luck with the next one!
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#8 Post by emorphien » Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:14 pm

Yours has to be improperly mounted in some way because my T43p, like other Ts is by far probably the best I've seen without getting in to those armored laptops.
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#9 Post by dvorak » Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:18 pm

Well, the screen IS plastic, and I can see it bends a little when moved by holding only one top-corner. I myself am not suggesting moving any screen from the corners only, produces too much pressure to such plastic screens/lids.

When I tap on the back, the whole screen just moves back and forth, the LCD itself stays still.

I'm suspecting yours may just be a little loose.
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#10 Post by Trip » Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:55 pm

The screenlid is plastic? Or the LCD itself?

I thought the lid was magnesium alloy or something like that.
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#11 Post by mntbikeracer1 » Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:06 pm

First of all I fail to see why this is really an issue do you plan on pushing on the corners often. Secondly Dell's are not built nearly like IBM's so if your's s doing what it says and it is a big deal to you talk to IBM

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#12 Post by Trip » Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:46 pm

Well, I carry it in a backpack with plenty of other junk, so I don't want that pressing against it and causing damage to the screen. I also have a habit of using laptops in weird positions, with the screen resting rather heavily on my legs or knees. It's really annoying when I do that and the screen distorts.

And mid-to-high end Dells really aren't really build as badly as everyone seems to think, in my experience. At least, in terms of build quality.

I'm pretty sure that I'm going to give Lenovo a call when I can (not until Wednesday, thanks to school) and arrange to ship this one back. Maybe I'll try calling tech support tomorrow, though, to see if any of the stuff that's been bothering me counts as enough of a problem to get it fixed.
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#13 Post by Navck » Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:48 am

Trip, I went to a Dell booth and experanced the most cheaply built laptops in a mall.
Then I went to the apple store, and laughed after that.

Sorry, even the 9200s and XPS Gen 2s can have screen distortion if you press on the back hard enough (That doesn't affect my 15 inch T43 tho)

Good luck on your return

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#14 Post by emorphien » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:14 am

Trip wrote:And mid-to-high end Dells really aren't really build as badly as everyone seems to think, in my experience. At least, in terms of build quality.
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#15 Post by trikster2 » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:58 am

Just another flex data point:

Dell Lattitude D800, Precision M70 zero flex.

Two of the sturdiest laptops I have ever used.

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