Just Got a T41

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Just Got a T41

#1 Post by NightEye » Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:05 am

Just got a T41 about a week ago at the 23% off educational pricing from IBM (it's nice to get a $2800 notebook for $2100 - the benefits of being a student :D ). So far I am very impressed. Nice resolution screen, great performance and memory/HD space, and oh-so light. I love this thing! Hopefully I'll be lurking in and out of these forums either helping others with a T41 or getting help myself if a problem were to ever arise.

Just one question - is it possible to get Windows XP install disks from IBM incase I want to clear the hard drive and set up a dual boot configuration with Linux. I will be needing a Linux environment since I may be doing some software/hardware development.

Anyway, hope to become accostumed to these forums - seems like a great place to for fellow Thinkpad owners.
- Mike
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#2 Post by gosha16 » Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:42 am

you cant get a winxp cd, but you can get recovery cd's which will let you wipe the hidden partition. if you want to make a reg winxp cd, you can do it using the i386 folder on your thinkpad

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#3 Post by NightEye » Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:20 am

What's on the hidden partition?

I'll check when I get back home for the i386 folder - is it basically an ISO of a WinXP cd?
- Mike
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#4 Post by Guest » Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:55 am

Check your school. Maybe it has a contract with Microsoft and you can downloads windows XP and other platforms for free.

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#5 Post by G-Man » Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:59 am

NightEye wrote:What's on the hidden partition?
The complete IBM Recovery CD set, including XP Pro, Drivers, Apps etc. Once you have the Recovery CD set, you don't really need the hidden partition.

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#6 Post by NightEye » Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:12 pm

Can I unhide the partition and put these CDs on actual CDs, or is there an image I can download from IBM to get these CDs?
- Mike
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#7 Post by EnsignRicki » Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:28 pm

Yes you can unhide the hidden partition in the BIOS. It's around 8 CDs worth of stuff which you can burn yourself. I just called IBM and asked them to send me the CDs instead.

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#8 Post by T23_Owner » Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:25 pm

I have Winxp Pro recovery disks for my T23 and there are only 2 of them. Why in the world does the T4x series need 8? What the heck is on the other 6 cds?

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#9 Post by NightEye » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:08 am

Seems kind of stupid - why not just package each Thinkpad with the CDs instead of going through all the trouble of having people to burn them and request them from IBM.
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#10 Post by JaneL » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:23 am

Because the bulk of IBM's sales are to corporations who have no need for the CDs and end up tossing them in the landfills. It's cheaper to only send them out to people who actually want them.
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#11 Post by T23_Owner » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:33 am

Cheaper? IBM charges $30 for install disks. They are only free if your har drive craps out.

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#12 Post by Leon » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:38 am

well, of course.... if you ask for them your drive DID "crap out" :wink:

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#13 Post by jdhurst » Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:33 am

The T41 uses the Predesktop Area for System and Recovery functions. This was documented in an IBM Whitepaper in January, 2003. If I understand it correctly, it does not use a partition in the regular sense, and allows you to use Partition Magic and create the maximum number of partitions. Unless you really need the space, I would be inclined to leave it in the event of a problem. By all means, get the Recovery CD's as well. Just say you are getting a bigger hard drive or some such reason, and the CD's are free in the first 30 days as has been noted before here.

Now in terms of dual-booting. That is a way, and it works, I would use Partition Magic 8 to shrink your pre-load XP system and provide room for a Linux Partition.

Another way is to use VMware. You can get an educational discount for that. With VMware you can build and use multiple systems within your XP Host system. You can also network the "guest" systems (say Linux) with the "Host" system (XP in this case).

I put the 60Gb 7200-rpm drive in my T41. It is very fast, quiet and cool. I have the XP Host system, a Windows 2000 guest, a Windows NT4 guest, a Windows 98SE guest, a DOS 6.3 guest, and a RedHat Linux guest (soon to be SuSE 9.1). The main guests are 3 to 4Gb each and the whole arrangement takes 25Gb leaving 28Gb free. That totals 53Gb and I think the 60Gb disk is nominally 57 or 58Gb after formatting meaning that 4 or 5Gb was used for the Preload. The point is that I have lots of computers on this T41, I can use at least two simultaneously with the Host, and they are all networked together via NAT.

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#14 Post by Leon » Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:37 am

cooool! :D

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