***NO MORE 2010 on AFTERMARKET HITACHI (7K100, 7K60, etc)***

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#61 Post by DIGITALgimpus » Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:49 am

dhave wrote: It's been running in my Thinkpad for almost nine months. It's nearly equivalent to the Hitachi 7k100. They're both 100Gb 7200 rpm Travelstars.
They are the same interface, but not equiv. The manufacturer doesn't even recommend running it in a laptop. It's designed for 24x7 operation, and generates more heat. It's designed for blade applications.
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#62 Post by dhave » Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:09 pm

DIGITALgimpus wrote:
dhave wrote: It's been running in my Thinkpad for almost nine months. It's nearly equivalent to the Hitachi 7k100. They're both 100Gb 7200 rpm Travelstars.
They are the same interface, but not equiv. The manufacturer doesn't even recommend running it in a laptop. It's designed for 24x7 operation, and generates more heat. It's designed for blade applications.
O.K. I thought you were saying it wasn't even laptop format, but you're talking about intended usage. When I bought the e7k100 (as opposed to the 7k100), the current hype on a lot of laptop newsgroups (probably not here, though) was that it had superior cache management or something -- can't remember right offhand. At the time, I wasn't aware of the different intended usage.
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#63 Post by dstraus » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:19 pm

has anyone figured out how to get the 5k100 HTS541010G9AT00 drive working? Or, should I just buy the 5k100 80gb version, since that one has had success?

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#64 Post by myue » Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:31 pm

I followed the steps and tried to make my hard disk work. When I was in step 5 and I keyed in command like:

A:\>hfui12L.exe IA5HA MGBIA5HA.bin /F MRLA5HA.tbl

then i got Bad command or file name.

I booted from CDROM and tried several boot disk and still got same message.

Could somebody help me to firgure out why?

Thanks.

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#65 Post by kgoto » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:05 pm

I'd like to report another success in eliminating the 2010 error using the procedures
given in this forum. The drive is a Hitachi 100G 7K100 HTS721010G9AT00 (Mfg Part# 0A25015) with firware version MCZOA51A. Here are the steps that worked for me:

1. Downloaded fwhd45.iso from Lenovo and created a CD-R disk as instructed.
2. Booted with disk which ran the HD FW update program. FW version showed as MCZOA51A,
and program claimed no update needed.
3. Exited program (ESC) and got "Turn Power off." prompt.
4. Typed Ctl-C and got "Terminate batch job (Y/N)?" prompt.
5. Typed y and got "C:>" prompt.
6. Typed command:

C:>hfui15.exe OA51A MCZIA51A.BDR /F MPCA51AB.TBL

Ominous error (something about an open file) resulted, but too late to turn back now
so went on with next command.
7. Typed command:

C:>hfui15.exe IA51A MCZIA51A.BDR /F MPCA51AB.TBL

A different but unnerving error message resulted and I feared I had just hosed my
brand new drive.
8. Removed the disk, powered down and rebooted.

Amazing! - My drive still worked, and sweeter yet, NO 2010 error!

Note: I ran the HD FW Update program again just for fun and it now shows the firmware
version as MCZIA51A.

All of this is pure black magic to me but I couldn't be happier with the result.
Thanks to all on this forum who shared their knowledge and experiences and made
this successful result possible.
T43-2687DEU: 1.86GHz, 2G RAM, 100G 7K100

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#66 Post by sbddude » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:05 pm

Does anyone have a copy of the 5k7k100.rar file? The link in the first post is not working.

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#67 Post by raresd » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:23 pm

I am also looking for a copy 5k7k100.rar. If just got an HTS541080G9AT00 and I cannot remove the 2010 error message.
Thank you.

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#68 Post by Senser » Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:42 am

kgoto wrote:I'd like to report another success in eliminating the 2010 error using the procedures
given in this forum. The drive is a Hitachi 100G 7K100 HTS721010G9AT00 (Mfg Part# 0A25015) with firware version MCZOA51A. Here are the steps that worked for me:

1. Downloaded fwhd45.iso from Lenovo and created a CD-R disk as instructed.
2. Booted with disk which ran the HD FW update program. FW version showed as MCZOA51A,
and program claimed no update needed.
3. Exited program (ESC) and got "Turn Power off." prompt.
4. Typed Ctl-C and got "Terminate batch job (Y/N)?" prompt.
5. Typed y and got "C:>" prompt.
6. Typed command:

C:>hfui15.exe OA51A MCZIA51A.BDR /F MPCA51AB.TBL

Ominous error (something about an open file) resulted, but too late to turn back now
so went on with next command.
7. Typed command:

C:>hfui15.exe IA51A MCZIA51A.BDR /F MPCA51AB.TBL

A different but unnerving error message resulted and I feared I had just hosed my
brand new drive.
8. Removed the disk, powered down and rebooted.

Amazing! - My drive still worked, and sweeter yet, NO 2010 error!

Note: I ran the HD FW Update program again just for fun and it now shows the firmware
version as MCZIA51A.

All of this is pure black magic to me but I couldn't be happier with the result.
Thanks to all on this forum who shared their knowledge and experiences and made
this successful result possible.
Yesterday I upgraded the firmeware of my new 7K100 drive. I experienced exactly the same behaviour, both times an error message. I also thought it went wrong. However, after shutting down and rebooting the 2010 error was gone. :lol:
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#69 Post by spaniard » Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:52 pm

kgoto wrote:I'd like to report another success in eliminating the 2010 error using the procedures
given in this forum. The drive is a Hitachi 100G 7K100 HTS721010G9AT00 (Mfg Part# 0A25015) with firware version MCZOA51A. Here are the steps that worked for me:

1. Downloaded fwhd45.iso from Lenovo and created a CD-R disk as instructed.
2. Booted with disk which ran the HD FW update program. FW version showed as MCZOA51A,
and program claimed no update needed.
3. Exited program (ESC) and got "Turn Power off." prompt.
4. Typed Ctl-C and got "Terminate batch job (Y/N)?" prompt.
5. Typed y and got "C:>" prompt.
6. Typed command:

C:>hfui15.exe OA51A MCZIA51A.BDR /F MPCA51AB.TBL

Ominous error (something about an open file) resulted, but too late to turn back now
so went on with next command.
7. Typed command:

C:>hfui15.exe IA51A MCZIA51A.BDR /F MPCA51AB.TBL

A different but unnerving error message resulted and I feared I had just hosed my
brand new drive.
8. Removed the disk, powered down and rebooted.

Amazing! - My drive still worked, and sweeter yet, NO 2010 error!

Note: I ran the HD FW Update program again just for fun and it now shows the firmware
version as MCZIA51A.

All of this is pure black magic to me but I couldn't be happier with the result.
Thanks to all on this forum who shared their knowledge and experiences and made
this successful result possible.

Another Happy ThinkPad'r with a 100GB hard drive and no error. These instructions worked LIKE A CHARM!!!!

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160 GB 5K160?

#70 Post by patfla » Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:56 am

OK. Anyone know where we'd start on modifying the instructions that have worked for the 7200 100GB to do something similar with the 5400 160 GB?

I need more disk room again.

And I'm a programmer and am willing to fck around with this some if there's some hope of coming up with a working technique.

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#71 Post by gunston » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:01 am

wow, i believe this would be another nightmare for me when upgrading the HDD for my T43 :!:
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#72 Post by alanx » Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:51 am

After several tries on flashing a 7k100 Hitachi 100gb drive HTS721010G9AT00 (MCZOA51A) on a T43p, I finally got rid of the 2010 error by following Blapp's excellent post on the following thread and using the modified image he linked to in the same post:

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... sc&start=0 (bottom)

It's hard going through all the posts/threads about the 2010 error, flashing, re-flashing, etc. without seeing an end to it. Hope this helps someone still looking for a solution. I had to wipe the drive first to delete the MBR since it came from another working thinkpad, otherwise not needed if your drive is new. Judging from the linked iso, it MIGHT also work with a 5k drive.

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#73 Post by gunston » Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:26 am

that's cool~
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I have an E7K100 ~ HTE721010G9AT00 ~ MCZOA51A need .tbl

#74 Post by WWSS » Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:36 pm

I have an E7K100 ~ HTE721010G9AT00 ~ MCZOA51A need .tbl of the equation below for my T43... :arrow:


my model is HTE721010G9AT00 - its ok after all
"I have E7K100 Hitachi with FIRMWARE MCZOA51A

command line FOR E7K100 100GB 7200rpm HITACHI :

A>hfui15.exe OA51A MCZOA51A.BDR /F M???????.TBL

:?

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I have an E7K100 ~ HTE721010G9AT00 ~ MCZOA51A need .tbl

#75 Post by WWSS » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:19 pm

DIGITALgimpus wrote:
vovus wrote: my model is HTS721010G9AT00 - its ok after all :D
"I have 7K100 Hitachi with FIRMWARE MCZOA40M

command line FOR 7K100 100GB 7200rpm HITACHI :

A>hfui15.exe OA51A MCZIA51A.BDR /F MPCA51AB.TBL

press U in the program, see failure after trying to update. But it doesn't matter. Exit the program then type following:

A>hfui15.exe IA51A MCZIA51A.BDR /F MPCA51AB.TBL

Press U again in the program, you should see Pass..Exit and Reboot..
Ya Da..

NO MORE 2010 ERROR MESSAGE AFTER ALL.."
What about the 5k100 100GB?

I have an E7K100 ~ HTE721010G9AT00 ~ MCZOA51A need .tbl of the equation below for my T43...


my model is HTE721010G9AT00 - Need M?????.tbl...
"I have E7K100 Hitachi with FIRMWARE MCZOA51A

command line FOR E7K100 100GB 7200rpm HITACHI :

A>hfui15.exe OA51A MCZOA51A.BDR /F M??????.TBL


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#76 Post by Eagle_B5 » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:55 pm

Help, could anybody explain to me how it works with a Hitachi 80GB 7200rpm (HTS721080G9AT00) harddisc to remove that f*** 2010 error?

I've nothing found about my 80GB model :( and this rar file is no more avaliable :(

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Now trying MK1032GAX since the E7K100 thus far isn't support

#77 Post by WWSS » Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:53 pm

Below is the drive:

TOSHIBA MK1032GAX [Hard drive] (100.03 GB) -- drive 0, s/n Z6HBT4NMT, rev AB211A, SMART Status: Healthy

Found the firmware update should be ABxx4E as of 10/2/2007 IBM.com MIGR-64744 found here: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-64744

Tried the ibm.com FWHD49.exe iso, and were told there was no firmware update needed???


need .tbl of the equation below for the T43 - Error 2010 fix...

A>hfui15.exe AB211A MCZAB211A.BDR /F ???AB214E.TBL :?:

:idea: In short... How do we locate the checksum for the above hard drive???

By the last response to this question, we realized we did not mention that we had already tried the iso file to update the firmware and were left with only being able to press [Esc] to quit, and [Ctrl+c] for command prompt... But do not know the checksum value for this drive to complete the manual upgrade.
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Firmware update for the 7k100

#78 Post by golan » Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:44 pm

Hi, I followed all the instructions in previous posts about the 2010 error but it didn't work for me. I guess that the problem is that my HD came with the MCZOA40M firmware and not the MCZOA51A which most people here listed. Is there any way i can flash my HD and change the firmware into an IBM one?
If there is no direct way to do so, then is there any way to change the firmware into the MCZOA51A?

Forgot to mention i have the 7k100, HTS721010G9AT00

Thank you very much,

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Re: ***NO MORE 2010 on AFTERMARKET HITACHI (7K100, 7K60, etc)***

#79 Post by johna » Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:30 pm

I have several new HTS548060M9AT00 drives (manufactured May 05 - MGBOA53A firmware) that I would like to use in T43s. I have tried messar's method on one after using Control C to return to PCDOS instead of using a USB floppy(I don't have one) without success. I'm wondering if the programs in the FWHD55.iso version now on Lenovo's site have been modified so that messar's method will fail. Has anyone used this version recently? Do I need to purchase a USB floppy?

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Re: ***NO MORE 2010 on AFTERMARKET HITACHI (7K100, 7K60, etc)***

#80 Post by dcouzin » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:20 am

Just now there's a glut of new OEM Hitachi HTS721010G9AT00 hard drives for sale on eBay for around $100. It's a chance for T43 owners to find a spare drive. I acquired a Hitachi HTS721010G9AT00 with firmware MBZOA60A and now must make the drive T43 compatible. But the success stories with this drive have all begun with firmware MCZOA51A.

Question 1: Hitachi put firmware MBZOA60A, which is common on HTS541010G9AT00 drives, onto newer HTS721010G9AT00 drives. Why did they do this? Can firmware be rpm independent?

In line with the success stories, firmware MBZOA60A would be upgraded to firmware MBZIA60A. But firmware MBZIA60A doesn't exist. I'm somewhat hopeful that firmware MBZIA6CA might work for me. File MBZIA6CA.BDR is found in Lenovo's fwhd56.iso even though it's nowhere mentioned in the FW.PRO file! FW.PRO does mention the HTS541080G9AT00 drive with MB4IA60A being upgraded to MB4IA6CA. So you'd suppose the HTS541010G9AT00 drive with MBZIA60A can be upgraded to MBZIA6CA. So I'm hoping my HTS721010G9AT00 will do likewise.

Question 2 is about the syntax of the hfui instruction. For example in:
  • hfui15.exe OA51A MCZIA51A.bdr /F mpcA51Ab.tbl
what exactly does the underlined phrase do? Messar called this the "version control phrase". What does that mean?

I'm thinking of adding files MBZIA6CA.bdr and mpbA6CAb.tbl to 5k7k100.iso and then trying the two instructions
  • hfui15.exe OA60A MBZIA6CA.bdr /F mpbA6CAb.tbl
    hfui15.exe IA6CA MBZIA6CA.bdr /F mpbA6CAb.tbl

but don't want to turn my new hard drive to a brick. Expert advice will be appreciated.

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#81 Post by dcouzin » Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:45 pm

I tried adding the two files MBZIA6CA.bdr and mpbA6CAb.tbl to Blapp's 5k7k100.iso, perhaps imperfectly installing two copies of each, one in 5k7k100.iso and one in 5k7k100.img. At the first statement
  • hfui15.exe OA60A MBZIA6CA.bdr /F mpbA6CAb.tbl
the reply was:
  • Error: Can't open mpba6CAB.tbl
Since both files were already in Lenovo's fwhd56.iso I next tried running straight from that CD. (Like Messar's Part A from his 18 Feb 2006 post.) At the same first statement the reply this time was:
  • Bad command or filename
The problem must be in the version control phrase OA60A. (I tried OA6CA too.) The version switching might require the renaming tricks given by monkey243 in a Chinese 51nb forum and hinted at by Messar in his 21 Feb 2006 post. The trick worked for Lukee in his 8 July 2010 post. Can anyone explain what the renaming does?

Note added: Another possibility is that hfui14.exe, rather than hfui15.exe, should be used with this HTS721010G9AT00 into which Hitachi has put MBZOA60A firmware.

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#82 Post by lukee » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:15 am

Sorry for my late response.
Note added: Another possibility is that hfui14.exe, rather than hfui15.exe, should be used with this HTS721010G9AT00 into which Hitachi has put MBZOA60A firmware.
You can't use the hfui14.exe program for 7k100 series!
Error: Can't open mpba6CAB.tbl
Are you sure the file is present in directory, where you actually are?
Bad command or filename
You've entered totally wrong command.

I suggest you should:
1. Prepare some MS-DOS or FreeDOS bootable CD/CDRW
2. Prepare another CD/CDRW with ALL files you need (compilation from 5k7k100.iso and fwhd56.iso)
3. Install MS-DOS or FreeDOS on HDD which you plan to upgrade
4. Copy ALL files from prepared complilation to temp folder on HDD where DOS is installed

Go like this:

Code: Select all

hfui15.exe OA60A MCZIA60A.bdr /F mpbA60Ab.tbl
(I'm not sure with tbl file, you must find correct name in complilation)

Next, use this code:

Code: Select all

hfui15.exe IA60A MCZIA60A.bdr /F mpbA60Ab.tbl
Now boot with alone fwhd56.iso and the program will offer you IA6CA firmware.

EDIT: may I ask you to check following? I registerred that after FW update on my 7k100 drive here is a short seeking sound each ~10 seconds (when no HDD activity is required too). I think, this happened after FW upgrade, do you registerring similar behavior on your 7k100 too?
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#83 Post by dcouzin » Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:50 pm

lukee wrote: You can't use the hfui14.exe program for 7k100 series!
To lukee: the fw.pro file shows hfui14.exe used only with 5k100 series, but it also shows hfui14.exe used only with a60a firmware, which is the firmware Hitachi put into my 7k100 drive. What makes you sure the first fact overrides the second fact?
lukee wrote: Are you sure the file is present in directory, where you actually are?
All the .bdr, .bdf, and .tbl files are in no directory in 5k7k100.iso and likewise in fwhd41.iso, etc.
lukee wrote: You've entered totally wrong command.
I suggest you should ...
Go like this:
hfui15.exe OA60A MCZIA60A.bdr /F mpbA60Ab.tbl
Next, use this code:
hfui15.exe IA60A MCZIA60A.bdr /F mpbA60Ab.tbl
I think you meant to write 'MBZ...' instead of 'MCZ...' in these suggestions. The problem of course is that MBZIA60A.bdr doesn't exist. The file must be created as a renaming of some other file. Also mpbA60Ab.tbl, although it exists, probably needs to be replaced, although maybe with its old name. A grand review of Messar's method is in order.

5k7k100.img originated in Messar's 18 Feb 2006 post and was repackaged by Blapp 21 Dec 2006 as 5k7k100.iso. 5k7k100.iso has produced many successes so let's try to understand what's in it and how it works.

5k7k100.iso contains the original archive 5k7k100.img which made a bootable floppy. One file, boot.catalog was added, and the whole contents of 5k7k100.img were repeated. (I think 5k7k100.img is doing nothing in 5k7k100.iso.)

5k7k100.iso and Lenovo's fwhd41.iso have no directory structure. fwhd41.iso consists of 147 files and 26 tiny file fragments. 5k7k100.iso consists of the mentioned .img archive and 23 files.

fw.exe is exactly the same in 5k7k100.iso and in fwhd41.iso (but I don't think fw.exe is used in Messar's method anyhow).

fw.pro in 5k7k100.iso is excerpted from fw.pro in fwhd41.iso (but I don't think fw.pro is used in Messar's method anyhow; I think fw.exe uses fw.pro).

All the .tbl, .bdr, and .bdf files in 5k7k100.iso are already in Lenovo's fwhd41.iso with two exceptions:
mb4oa60a.bdf
mc4oa51a.bdf
Messar created file mb4oa60a.bdf identical to file mb4ia60a.bdf and created file mc4oa51a.bdf identical to file mc4ia51a.bdf. This is Messar's renaming trick described in his 21 Feb 2006 post. The mb4 firmware was included in fwhd41.iso for a 80GB 5k100 drive, and the mc4 firmware was for a 80GB 7k100 drive. Notice that Messar's renaming trick involves .bdf firmware files rather than .bdr firmware files. The .bdr firmware files mb4ia60a.bdr and mc4ia51a.bdr were also available in fwhd41.iso, and they're also included in 5k7k100.iso. While Messar included two new .bdf filenames in 5k7k100.iso, no .bdf filename figures in any of his DOS commands. What then do those renamed files do, for example, when Messar suggests the following two DOS commands?

hfui14.exe OA60A MBYIA60A.bdr /F mpbA60Ab.tbl
hfui14.exe IA60A MBYIA60A.bdr /F mpbA60Ab.tbl

Does hfui14.exe search the disk and find mb4oa60a.bdf, that is, something with 'oa60a' in it, before it can burn the unrenamed unrelated MBYIA60A.bdr?

What are .bdf firmware files, anyhow? This type is never mentioned in a fw.pro file. I wish someone had asked Messar to explain his trick in 2006. Messar seems to have a deep understanding of the hfui programs.

Now what can I do with my 7k100 100gb drive having firmware mbzoa60a? I can't simply run the two commands:

hfui15.exe OA60A MBZIA60A.bdr /F mpbA60Ab.tbl
hfui15.exe IA60A MBZIA60A.bdr /F mpbA60Ab.tbl

because file MBZIA60A.bdr doesn't exist. The only MBZ firmware file Lenovo has issued is MBZIA6CA.bdr. It's in fwhd56.iso. I think this is the firmware I should burn, but how? I'm tempted to try the following:

Create MBZOA60A.bdr from MBZIA6CA.bdr and add this to 5k7k100.iso.
Create MBZIA60A.bdr from MBZIA6CA.bdr and add this to 5k7k100.iso.
Delete mpbA60Ab.tbl from 5k7k100.iso.
Create mpbA60Ab.tbl from mpbA6CAb.tbl and add this to 5k7k100.iso.
Then the two hfui15 commands mentioned above.

But I can't hope to solve this blindly, without understanding what Messar understood, and perhaps more.

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#84 Post by lukee » Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:55 am

I've used MCZIA60A firmware file, not MBZ*. Perhaps mine 7k100 drive comes from a different series equipped with another OEM firmware. I'm sure I've used MCZIA60A for flashing.
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#85 Post by dcouzin » Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:10 pm

lukee: there have been many firmwares for each of these Hitachi hard drives, but not so many IBM versions. I've examined fwhd3414 (for floppy), fwhd41.iso, fwhd42.iso, fwhd47.iso, and fwhd56.iso and found nothing like your MCZIA60A. When the second character is 'C' the sixth character is generally '5', never '6'. When the sixth character is '6' the second character is always 'B'.
I wish we didn't have to figure out the firmware flashing routines from typographic tidbits.

In the various fw.pro's:
MC3... firmware is listed for HTS721060G9AT00 (60GB) drives.
MC4... firmware is listed for HTS721080G9AT00 (80GB) drives.
MCZ... firmware is listed for HTS721010G9AT00 (100GB) drives.

MB2... firmware is listed for HTS541040G9AT00 (40GB) drives.
MB3... firmware is listed for HTS541060G9AT00 (60GB) drives.
MB4... firmware is listed for HTS541080G9AT00 (80GB) drives.

The naming makes some sense. But:
MBY... firmware is also listed for HTS541080G9AT00 (80GB) drives.

And then we do find a MBZ... firmware file included in fwhd56.iso although the fw.pro doesn't mention it. From experimenting with fw.pro I know that fw.exe reads fw.pro and tries to burn the firmware specified in fw.pro. So fwhd56.iso has an error here. We mice are trying figure out flashing routines from typographic tidbits among errors.

What do the first two characters in the Hitachi firmware name mean? Why did Hitachi put MB... firmware in my HTS721010G9AT00 drive? If I try to put MC... firmware in the drive will the burn proceed? Will MC... firmware brick the drive?
The third character in the firmware name seems to refer to the drive capacity.
The fourth character in the firmware name seems to refer to the computer brand. Anyhow we know the 'o' vs 'i' here.
The final five characters in the firmware name are what Messar called the "version control phrase". What does this mean? How is it separate from the earlier characters?
Before proceeding to burn, what does the hfui program look at in the hard drive, and in its arguments: the new firmware filename, the new firmware file, the new checksum filename, in the new checksum file? What else does the hfui program look at (since Messar's method implies it does)?

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Re: ***NO MORE 2010 on AFTERMARKET HITACHI (7K100, 7K60, etc)***

#86 Post by lukee » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:33 am

I've examined fwhd3414 (for floppy), fwhd41.iso, fwhd42.iso, fwhd47.iso, and fwhd56.iso and found nothing like your MCZIA60A.
Look here. My 7k100 is in external USB enclosure currently, it isn't showing FW number, but version is present (MCZI): http://www.squadramoravia.com/common/7k100.png
If I try to put MC... firmware in the drive will the burn proceed? Will MC... firmware brick the drive?
Check the drive features first, if the drive supports 'Download Microcode' feature. If yes, try to flash it with MC*.
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Re: ***NO MORE 2010 on AFTERMARKET HITACHI (7K100, 7K60, etc)***

#87 Post by dcouzin » Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:36 am

lukee, you've put firmware MCZIA41M, MCZIA51A, or MCZIA5DA into your drive. There is no firmware MCZIA60A.
If you really started with MBZ... firmware then you've answered my first question; you have burned MC... over MB... And you may have answered my second question too. You haven't bricked your drive but as you say,
I registerred that after FW update on my 7k100 drive here is a short seeking sound each ~10 seconds (when no HDD activity is required too).
it's behaving strangely.

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Re: ***NO MORE 2010 on AFTERMARKET HITACHI (7K100, 7K60, etc)***

#88 Post by lukee » Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:52 am

I don't know why I can't get its version via USB enclosure - I'm sure when the drive is connected in HDD bay directly, it reports FW version also. Give me some time to check correct version, I will get photo/screenshot when 7k100 will be back in my T43p. Stay tuned.

EDIT: by the way, if you want you can help me with investigating of T43 BIOS! I've disassembled it to source code and finding the 2010 error procedure inside to be removed from BIOS! If you are interested I can provide you more details and how to investigate the code. It's 16bit x86 assembler.
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Re: ***NO MORE 2010 on AFTERMARKET HITACHI (7K100, 7K60, etc)***

#89 Post by dcouzin » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:10 pm

lukee: There are two viewpoints on the 2010 error.
1: it is a noisy nuisance to be bypassed by installing an electric switch, hacking the BIOS, etc.
2: it is a serious warning. IBM's 19 July 2005? statement on the 2010 error describes a few problems with "disk copy tools and related applications." Harryc's 22 Feb 2009 report says "there is a potential for data loss under certain conditions". Presumably there is more behind Harryc's cagey warning than what's in the published IBM (Lenovo) page.

I'm of viewpoint 2 and won't take a chance with data corruption.
I haven't given up on reflashing my HTS721010G9AT00 (MBZOA60A) to MBZIA6CA. The method described by dan0815 on 20 June 2008 for other firmware on another drive seems applicable to my case.
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Re: ***NO MORE 2010 on AFTERMARKET HITACHI (7K100, 7K60, etc)***

#90 Post by lukee » Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:09 am

Well, many people here can confirm reliability of using non-approved drives. There are no known issues with these disks. I've got two ATA disks currently at home:

1. 7k100 - 100GB, no 2010 error, performance about 50 MB/s in peaks, noisy
2. Samsung HM160HC, 160 GB, 2010 error at startup, performance about 65 MB/s in peaks, very quiet one-platter drive.

I've selected the Samsung as my primary HDD in main HDD bay because it is faster and quiet, no problems at all, SMART status OK, PC-Doctor reports fully healthy system. I'm using also HDD password set in BIOS, everything works perfectly. In my opinion, firmware for approved disks was modified for IBM purposes only for old software, I think some old versions of backup software EZ-Gig etc., because this software was written for ATA specification but T43s, R52s and X41s reports to system an SATA controller. If you're using newest applications, you don't need to be worry.
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