Dead Pixel Dance or the like

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Dead Pixel Dance or the like

#1 Post by eriqesque » Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:30 pm

I have had my T40 since July of 03 with zero problems, until recently.
My LCD developed these annoying little white spots scattered throughout the screen. I have zero dead pixels but these spots were annoying so I took it to my local service center and they said this is not normal and are replacing the screen. So I and hopefully many others will join me in the NO DEAD PIXELS DANCE or the like. :lol: I know it's very childish but hey it just might work LOL
I really hope this new screen does not have any. I debated whether to even have them switch it because of this. But they insited that those spots will get worse.
Anyway I will know soon it's there now and they said it will be done in a couple of hours.

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#2 Post by Hangfire » Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:24 pm

I'll do a little gig and keep my fingers crossed cause dead pix pi$$ me off! :x
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#3 Post by eriqesque » Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:22 pm

Thanks
Just go back from picking it up. They were dang fast
Dropped it off about 10:45am and they called about 12:15pm with it finished.
NO DEAD OR STUCK PIXELS and NO White Spots YEAH!!!!!
I think this screen is even a little bit better than the the original as far as color and Brightness.
And AFAIK it's an ID Tech

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#4 Post by Hangfire » Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:55 pm

That is quick, I'm getting my T42 tomorrow after waiting 3 weeks. (Sent my first one back due to dead pix.)

Good luck with the new screen.
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#5 Post by T23_Owner » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:57 pm

So what are the white spots? I have to send in my T23 because of them.

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#6 Post by G-Man » Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:13 pm

Does it matter? You got a T42p for a T23. :twisted:

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#7 Post by T23_Owner » Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:22 pm

Yeah I did! :P

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#8 Post by T41mbi » Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:21 pm

I dont understand the big deal and dead pixels i got two dead pixels and i dont give a $hit, you have to really focus to notice them! Seriously, PICKY PICKY PICKY people you guys are

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#9 Post by T23_Owner » Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:32 pm

Yeah, pixels aren't that bad but white spots are. Mine is has a 1in diameter. Sucks.

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#10 Post by eriqesque » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:29 pm

T41mbi wrote:I dont understand the big deal and dead pixels i got two dead pixels and i dont give a $hit, you have to really focus to notice them! Seriously, PICKY PICKY PICKY people you guys are
[censored] right Iam picky when it comes to Pixels but if they don't bother you then more power to ya. But 1 dead pixel to me is too many.
Bugs me a whole lot more than a wiggly battery.

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#11 Post by eriqesque » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:33 pm

T23_Owner wrote:So what are the white spots? I have to send in my T23 because of them.
Don't really know.
I should've asked them what causes it. They didn't say except that they weren't normal.
I think it is strange that they were right on the spot to change the LCD becasue of them though. There were only like 4 maybe 5mm spots. I just took it in to have them looked at and they said well IBM will want to change that. So I did. They did say that they would probably get worse.
Its just funny they chage it for 4 or 1 of these spots but 8 or 15 are needed for dead/stuck pixel.

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#12 Post by Hangfire » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:39 am

eriqesque wrote:
T41mbi wrote:I dont understand the big deal and dead pixels i got two dead pixels and i dont give a $hit, you have to really focus to notice them! Seriously, PICKY PICKY PICKY people you guys are
[censored] right Iam picky when it comes to Pixels but if they don't bother you then more power to ya. But 1 dead pixel to me is too many.
Bugs me a whole lot more than a wiggly battery.
My dead pixel was in the center of the screen and bugged the hell out of me. I figure if I'm paying over two grand for a laptop, I should be happy with it all the way around, otherwise I'd get a Dell... dude. :shock:
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#13 Post by BillMorrow » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:50 am

white spots and hundreds of tiny white specs..
i have seen all of these at least once..

its a warranty item..

personally, i don't care for stuck on pixels but a dead pixel or two are not a problem to me..

if you have 5, maybe even 4 stuck on pexels all adjacent that look like a scratch the display will be replaced..
5 or so single pixels scattered about will not generate a new display under warranty..

it is a bit subjective..

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#14 Post by Hangfire » Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:44 am

Hey Bill!

You're up kinda late. I'm not sure if mine was a dead pixel or a stuck pixel, it was white all of the time. If it were along the edge or corner it wouldn't have bothered me as much.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to my new one, I'll keep you posted and thanks again for all of your help!
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#15 Post by BillMorrow » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:35 am

white all the time is a stuck on pixel..

can be very annoying..

you said dead pixel..

not nearly as annoying..

i would sure have sent that back myself..

going to hit the sack right now..! :)
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#16 Post by RaysMD » Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:05 am

How do you guys know if it's a dead pixel versus dust on the "inside" of the LCD?

Mine seems to be a light gray color that doesn't change when I put on different backgrounds. I know what I stuck pixels is, since that's always a certain color. So, when I have it on a black background, I can still see the fleck of dust. That's why I think it's dust rather than a dead pixel which is supposed to be black.

My current Thinkpad is perfect except for that "dust particle." Anyone able to blow some compressed air to get rid of it? It's about 2cm above the bottom at midline.
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#17 Post by BillMorrow » Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:30 am

RaysMD wrote:How do you guys know if it's a dead pixel versus dust on the "inside" of the LCD?

Mine seems to be a light gray color that doesn't change when I put on different backgrounds. I know what I stuck pixels is, since that's always a certain color. So, when I have it on a black background, I can still see the fleck of dust. That's why I think it's dust rather than a dead pixel which is supposed to be black.

My current Thinkpad is perfect except for that "dust particle." Anyone able to blow some compressed air to get rid of it? It's about 2cm above the bottom at midline.
sounds like either one of those white specs of unknown origin or a stuck on pixel..

not sure if you CAN blow some air between the TFT and backlight..

take a magnifier and take a CLOSE look..
or even a jewelers loup..
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#18 Post by akerman » Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:01 am

I occasionally have white spots too.. they usually dissapear after a reboot.

I think my t41p was built on a monday :D
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#19 Post by akerman » Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:08 am

bill>

on my dads old laptop (new enough to have TFT though), some little bugs got under the LCD - very, very annoying. So it's perfectly possible, don't know if it applies to thinkpads too.
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#20 Post by BillMorrow » Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:33 am

akerman wrote:I occasionally have white spots too.. they usually dissapear after a reboot.

I think my t41p was built on a monday :D
this can be a software issue or it could be bad memory..
or cheap memory..

i had a cadillac that was built on a monday..
it was a new 1971 eldorado..
huge car..!
terrible build quality.. :?

however, that was michael moore working on my cadillac.. :shock:

in china, they don't get drunk on what passes for a "weekend" there.. thus no monday QC problems.. :D
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