Dell 30" 3007WFP on T43P

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Dell 30" 3007WFP on T43P

#1 Post by NaT » Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:02 pm

Does anyone know if Dell 30" widescreen 3007WFP will work on Thinkpad T43p with Docking/Port replicator? According to Dell, it requires a DVI-D dual link port and a graphic card that supports up to 2560x1600.


I know that Dell 24" 2405FPW works great with T43p but not sure about this 30" monster.

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#2 Post by RonS » Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:34 am

The practical answer is no. None of the Thinkpad DVI connectors (docks or port replicator) support Dual-Link DVI.

However, if you're willing to do some "surgery" you can get the Matrox DL256 card to fit in the Dock II, which will drive two of the 30" displays at their native resolution (2560x1600). The card would run in 32-bit mode, with the extra traces that support 64-bit PCI dangling free. I have a DL256 driving two of the 30" monitors on a different system and it works okay, but it's a pretty slow card, bandwidth limited by the PCI bus.

The Thinkpad Advanced Dock, supported by the Z60 and T60, accepts a PCI-e x16 graphics board, so you will have multiple choices with that configuration.

Side note: Using the Dell 24" 2405FPW (1920x1200) and the Dell 30" 3007WFP side by side, I prefer the 24". The 24" size is just right for me, and the myriad inputs on the 24" make is a far more versital piece of gear. The 30" has DVI input only, and a very limited number of supported resolutions.
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#3 Post by Troels » Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:01 pm

Are you sure the Thinkpad advanced Dock support Pci-e x16 ?
In that case, why on the <bleeping> earth did Lenovo or IBM not make a version with AGP for the T4X series ? (would be a good idea considering the amount of people using it for higher performance uses...)

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#4 Post by RonS » Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:36 pm

Troels wrote:Are you sure the Thinkpad advanced Dock support Pci-e x16 ?
Yes, according to Lenovo's documentation.

http://tinyurl.com/9lspg

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-61232
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#5 Post by u.vivarelli » Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:06 pm

but HALF-SIZE pci-e...

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One half-size PCI Express card slot - Supports a range of graphics adapter cards that allow for multi-monitoring
"

i.e. quadro nvs..not quadro fx...

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#6 Post by Troels » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:28 pm

RonS wrote:
Troels wrote:Are you sure the Thinkpad advanced Dock support Pci-e x16 ?
Yes, according to Lenovo's documentation.

http://tinyurl.com/9lspg

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-61232
Thanks,
but, i'm going blind, they just state "One half-size PCI Express card slot - Supports a range of graphics adapter cards that allow for multi-monitoring". Can't find anything mentioning this in the user's guide either, so it could just be x1, x8 or x16 ? :oops:

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#7 Post by RonS » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:47 am

The only video card I know that is designed for anything other than x16 is from ColorGraphic. Since Lenovo is pitching the slot for video cards, it's safe to surmize that it's a x16 slot.
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#8 Post by RonS » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:51 am

Here's another thought: I wonder if this would work..

http://www.mycableshop.com/sku/PE-FLEX16.htm

A flexible PCI-Express x16 extender. The same idea may also work on the Dock II's PCI bus. Just put the extender in the dock, attach the graphics card to the other end (hanging outside the housing of the dock), leave the bottom cover off (which I do all the time anyway), and raise the dock up with some kind of 1" high stand. The video card runs physically outside the dock!

With any extender like this, there may be noise/impedence/timing issues that could prevent this idea from working. But it's worth a shot... I think I may order one just to try.
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