Weird hibernation problem that is driving me crazy

[atekant]

Sorry if this is a yet another hibernation problem question - I have looked up and down, but could not find a problem similar to mine.

This is on a T40p that I just upgraded the memory/HD and clean installed XP. Installed all XP patches, and everything the Software Installer suggested. I had Daemon tools and Omega drivers, but uninstalled those based on their potential issues with hibernation that I read on other threads.

Here is my weird problem:
- On a fresh reboot, I have no problems with hibernation. I have the tab, I can choose Hibernate from Shut down and my Fn-F12 key works fine
- When I go on stanby either manually or by closing the lid, it goes on standby fine
- When it is time to go to hibernation from standby (set to do that after an hour), though, hibernation fails and the computer wakes itself up. I usually find the computer running (with the lid closed, in a baclpack, and very *hot* obviously), or in standby with the batteries depleted (I suppose it wakes up and goes back to standby because of dead batteries.
- When it wakes up from the above, there is no more hibernation - no hibernation tab, forcing to hibernation does not work, and closing the lid to standby-hibernate does not work either. At this point I am in the same boat as others have been describing, as if Hibernation didn't exist.
- All I have to do at this point is to do a reboot, and everything is fine again (back to square one)
-I changed the lid closure event to hibernate instead - that works, but twice I found the computer in standby after that (with batteries half depleted), but I don't know how or when that happened or if it is reproducible.

I have also disabled/enabled the hibernation to reset the hiberfile in case it was corrupt many times, with no luck.

Any thoughts?

Argun

[chan_man]

Do you have more than 1gig of memory in this machine? if so, this can cause the hibernation problem. I encountered this problem when I added a 1gig dimm so bring my memory up to 1.5gig. There is a fix.. but it is in beta but on my machine it works.

[JHEM]

Turn OFF wake on LAN in the BIOS.

Report back.

Regards,

James

[atekant]

chan_man: Yes, I have 2GB on this machine. Is this fix publicly available yet, even if it is in beta? Do they need more testers?

[Paby]

Turn OFF wake on LAN in the BIOS.

Report back.

Regards,

James

I have this same issue and WOL is disabled. I have 2GB RAM though so that could be the problem. Anyone know when this fix is going to be released? Is it a IBM fix or Microsoft fix?

[atekant]

JHEM: I turned off WOL but I still have the problem.
Hibernation disappears/fails once the computer goes to standby.
A reboot fixes it.

Paby: does a reboot fix yours as well?

[Paby]

JHEM: I turned off WOL but I still have the problem.
Hibernation disappears/fails once the computer goes to standby.
A reboot fixes it.

Paby: does a reboot fix yours as well?

Actually, manual hibernate works at all times for me. The problem is that the computer (T43p) never goes to hibernate from standby. It goes to standby and then it stays there until it's out of battery.

[strev]

Hi chan-man, Do you know where one can get the beta fix for this problem? I recently upgraded from 1.5GB to 2.0GB (T40p) and now I cannot ever hibernate.

[krosenstein]

How do you turn off WOL in the BIOS?

Is it on the Startup-Network page? And do you simply x out the adapter?

[christopher_wolf]

JHEM: I turned off WOL but I still have the problem.
Hibernation disappears/fails once the computer goes to standby.
A reboot fixes it.

Paby: does a reboot fix yours as well?

Actually, manual hibernate works at all times for me. The problem is that the computer (T43p) never goes to hibernate from standby. It goes to standby and then it stays there until it's out of battery.

If I remember correctly, that is a RediSafe feature of the BIOS; it supports writing the info in the RAM from suspend to the HDD in the event that the system is low on battery. Although I don't think it does it after it suspends, though; rather, it should do it at the same time as suspend-to-RAM.

[diaz1023]

I used to have this problem, but there is a microsoft hotfix on the issue. I used to get a message saying something about the api not having enough memory to hibernate. my computer is a t40 with two gigs of ram. I still have the hotfix saved on my laptop just in case i need it, but am not sure how to post it on this site to help you guys out. this is the KB #909095, which you can see on the microsoft site. hope this helps, if you need the fix send me a message with your email and i can send it as an attatchment if you would like

Felipe Diaz

[krosenstein]

Will someone answer my question, please? How do you turn off WoL in the BIOS?

[GomJabbar]

Will someone answer my question, please? How do you turn off WoL in the BIOS?

To read, how to do it yourself, press the blue Access IBM button, type BIOS in the Keyword Search box, hit ENTER key, click on Display button, click on BIOS Setup Utility items. How to change most BIOS settings will be found there. Wake on LAN happens to be the first item listed.

Function
Network
Wake On LAN(R)

Selection
*Enabled
*Disabled

Comments
Enables the system to Power on when the Ethernet controller receives a magic packet.

[XCoalMiner]

I've researched this somewhat: MS says the problem occurs "because the Windows kernel power manager cannot obtain the memory resources that are required to prepare the computer to hibernate." You'll always get the message (typically in a yellow-ish balloon pop up) "insufficient resources exist to complete the api" whenever this occurs. Once you get that, hibernating is no longer an option (it gets disabled) until you reboot again, which of course defeats the purpose of hibernating.

I once read more details why this is so, had something to do with rearranging contiguous blocks of memory prior to writing an image of memory to the disk drive, the more numerous and/or fragmented the memory processes are, the less likely this rearrangement algorithm will be successful.

MS put out two knowledge base explanations on this, the first was pre-XP SP2, and fixes in XP SP2 were thought to correct the issue. But clearly that was not so. See the second explanation, with mention in the last paragraph of obtaining a hotfix that *may* receive additional testing. Interested in feedback of anyone using this hotfix successfully.

Per SP2:
Hibernation problem on computers with 1 GB of RAM

Post SP2:
The computer occasionally does not hibernate and you receive an "Insufficient System Resources Exist to Complete the API" error message in Windows XP with Service Pack 2, in Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005, or in Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005

Also, to expand on JHEM's request, WoL doesn't seem to correct this. Waking after the hibernate, typically with the case extremely hot and the laptop and fan running, or if enough time has elapsed the battery drained completely and in need of a cold boot. This is the consistent behavior in our office, it crosses several product brands, IBM, Dell, Compaq.

[diaz1023]

That is what i posted earlier. I have the hotfix and it works, it lets the computer be able to hibernate and still show up when you need it later, with the expanded memory e.g. 2 gigs ram

[XCoalMiner]

Sounds like you have not noticed any issues after applying the patch, not with hibernation,but with other fucntions, such as excessive memory swapping, etc.?

[XCoalMiner]

This is to clarify my previous about waking after hibernating. After observing this once again, the waking only occurs after suspending, not after hibernating. My experience with Hibernating is if while dong the hibernate no error is thrown up, then the system will stay in hibernate for as long as desired.

That is not the case with suspend, however. On a work laptop (Dell) about one of every five suspends ends with the system coming out of suspend, throwing up the 'insufficient resources to complete the API' message, a huge amount of heat being thrown off, and if left long enough the battery being completely drained. The error does not pop up immediately, the time lapse is usually > 30 minutes, long enough to put the laptop in a briefcase, leave the work environment and begin the trip home. I'm so used to this, that I usually catch it before the battery completely drains (that is, since the system has resumed from the suspect, I plug in into a power source).

[diaz1023]

Sounds like you have not noticed any issues after applying the patch, not with hibernation,but with other fucntions, such as excessive memory swapping, etc.?

No issues at all, the computer runs fine, just like when it came from the factory and had less ram.