T43p - SATA or ATA Ultrabay choice

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T43p - SATA or ATA Ultrabay choice

#1 Post by Roy_W » Sun May 14, 2006 5:07 am

Does anyone know if I can use either a SATA or a ATA Ultrabay drive housing work in a T43p or I am stuck to using only the SATA version.

I presume that the controller can handle both but I want to verify before buying.


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Re: T43p - SATA or ATA Ultrabay choice

#2 Post by bill bolton » Sun May 14, 2006 5:20 am

Roy_W wrote:Does anyone know if I can use either a SATA or a ATA Ultrabay drive housing work in a T43p
You can only use a PATA drive.

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#3 Post by davidspalding » Sun May 14, 2006 10:56 am

-- And you wanna make sure you get the Ultrabay slim HDD adapter for hte T4x line, not the T60. Different external bezel, for sure. Not sure about the interface (Chris Wolf has the straight dope; search on his posts with "hdd ultrabay slim" in them).
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Re: T43p - SATA or ATA Ultrabay choice

#4 Post by Roy_W » Sun May 14, 2006 1:54 pm

bill bolton wrote:
Roy_W wrote:Does anyone know if I can use either a SATA or a ATA Ultrabay drive housing work in a T43p
You can only use a PATA drive.

Cheers,

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Following on, can I use an ATA drive in a SATA housing ? or are they incompatible...........

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#5 Post by christopher_wolf » Sun May 14, 2006 4:14 pm

No, you can't use a PATA drive with a SATA interface in the Ultrabay; the connectors are very different.They have markedly different pinouts and the SATA connector is keyed as well.

The Ultrabay HDD takes only PATA HDDs as that is the interface that all the Ultrabay devices seem to use. The controller on the T43 and T43p is a SATA controller for the primary HDD only and it also deals with the SATA-PATA bridge used as well; that has no effect on the 2nd HDD in the Ultrabay.

SATA has no master/slave arrangement like the PATA shared bus, so you need another controller for it but end up with a fully dedicated line.

You can, however, plug a SATA drive into a SAS controller and have it talk with it just fine; the reverse, however, isn't true.

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Re: T43p - SATA or ATA Ultrabay choice

#6 Post by davidspalding » Sun May 14, 2006 5:54 pm

Roy_W wrote:Following on, can I use an ATA drive in a SATA housing ? or are they incompatible...........

Roy :oops:
Roy, if you spend a few minutes looking over the other threads re: HDDs in the Ultrabay Slim bay, you will not only see clearly spelled out WHAT you need, but WHAT ADAPTER you need to get.

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... 0+pata+ata
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... 0+pata+ata
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... 0+pata+ata
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... 0+pata+ata
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... 0+pata+ata
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... 0+pata+ata

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#7 Post by krondor » Fri May 11, 2007 6:11 pm

I have T43p 2668-H8G as well as T60 1951-A47. T60 uses only SATA HDD drives in its ultra bay.

I'm running hitachi 100 Gig HTS541010G9SA00 serial ATA drive monted in the T60 ultrabay with my T43p. No problem so far.

The T60 ultrabay has an extra plastic 'pin' on its outer connector side. Besides that detail the outer connector of the T60 ultrabay is electricly identical to the one used for T43p ultrabay. Removing the plastic pin on the back allows usage T60 serial ATA ultrabay adaptor in my T43p.

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#8 Post by andyP » Sat May 12, 2007 8:32 am

Have you seen this thread? Very "brave" indeed :!:

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=
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