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ex-SOLDIER · #1 Post by **ex-SOLDIER** » Sat May 20, 2006 10:25 pm

Well, I know about all the great updates for the T series line from Lenevo. However I am looking for the common problems that arises from the T series line. From the T42p all the way to T60p I am looking for the common complaints that people make about the laptops...
Any feedback is appreciated.

christopher_wolf · #2 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Sat May 20, 2006 10:33 pm

Well, the 2010 Error for non-IBM HDD upgrades to the T43 for one; fan problems reported on certain models (T43 to T42p). Sporadic system board issues which have become rare as of late.

That's about all I can think of.

HTH

#3 Post by **bill bolton** » Sat May 20, 2006 11:43 pm

ex-SOLDIER wrote:However I am looking for the common problems that arises from the T series line.

That's a very broad ranging question, so..... why?

rocky01 · #4 Post by **rocky01** » Sun May 21, 2006 5:05 pm

Weak USB port: broken internal prongs from normal use means systemboard replacement. No IEE 1394. Poor thermal paste/heat buildup issues. Battery can loosen and toss about a bit; creaking palmrests since changover to cheaper plastics. Keys can be fragile, again with normal use.

cmarti · #5 Post by **cmarti** » Sun May 21, 2006 5:37 pm

Mainly motherboard failure, motherboard failure and also motherboard failure.

#6 Post by **K. Eng** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:07 pm

I second that. My T40 had three system board replacements

cmarti wrote:Mainly motherboard failure, motherboard failure and also motherboard failure.

#7 Post by **underclocker** » Sun May 21, 2006 8:29 pm

The only "flaws" with the T-series stem from why we're so fanatic about them. They are an engineering marvel and represent the pinnacle of laptop design perfection - no flashing blue or orange lights needed. The T-series has been out for years, and nothing I've seen come close to this day - well, maybe the X-series ThinkPads...

IBM shaved everywhere they could designing the machine, therefore, it has to be treated with some care. Flex is under control, but noticable in some areas.

Do people wonder about flaws with their Ferrari's?

#8 Post by **K. Eng** » Sun May 21, 2006 9:39 pm

I don't care about most of the flaws in the T4x. I do care about the fact that the system board design for the T40 appears to be ridiculously unreliable.

A machine that suffers failure hinders my productivity. It shouldn't happen three times either. I think I'm entitled to wonder about that flaw, considering I paid $1900 for the machine (including upgrades).

underclocker wrote:IBM shaved everywhere they could designing the machine, therefore, it has to be treated with some care. Flex is under control, but noticable in some areas.

Do people wonder about flaws with their Ferrari's?

WizardNYC · #9 Post by **WizardNYC** » Sun May 21, 2006 9:50 pm

Regarding this motherboard problem I am about to go to my third board, so should I move to t60 from t40 or just forget about t series all together.

Website · #10 Post by **tfflivemb2** » Sun May 21, 2006 9:54 pm

WizardNYC wrote:Regarding this motherboard problem I am about to go to my third board, so should I move to t60 from t40 or just forget about t series all together.

The choice would be yours, but the motherboard that is in question is the T40's. I haven't seen too many motherboard complaints about the remaining T4xs, just the occasional ones.

WizardNYC · #11 Post by **WizardNYC** » Sun May 21, 2006 10:04 pm

Thanks, I just hope third time is a sharm. I was going to wait to ugrade to new thinkpad next year after vista comes out, but if this new motherbaord they goign to install on tuesday give me problem, I just will sell it on ebay and ge me a t43

#12 Post by **underclocker** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:15 pm

It would be helpful if IBM or Solectron or Lenovo published data on failure rates of key components like system boards and LCD panels.

{Or if we had an insider among us with this information.}

It'd be interesting to see if T40's are more or less problematic than other T's or R's or X's for that matter.

WizardNYC · #13 Post by **WizardNYC** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:59 pm

True they should inform us better.

thi might be off the topic, but if the new board they install works without a hitch this time, should I stay with the t40 or sell it. I mean you guys with t40 have u had the board problem from the start or did the board started to mess up after a while, maybe I should make a topic about this, cause I really need to know if I should stick with the t40 if the new board works fine

#14 Post by **underclocker** » Mon May 22, 2006 3:25 pm

That's what I'm saying. I'm concerned that it may only seem like T40's have system board problems. I've had an IBM ceritified used T40 for over a year with no issues. Two good friends have T40's, one is quite abusive, too - he takes his on his boat - and no issues after 3+ years.

Maybe a corporate helpdesk person with dozens or hundreds of T40's could speak up.

wantathinkpad · #15 Post by **wantathinkpad** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:30 pm

I (keyword I) just fried my USBs with a digital camera and not safely removing it. As a result computer stutters and freezes. I disable USB now computer starts fine. I have to wait till I get home from school to call them up and ask to get fixed. I understand to replace USB you have to replace motherboard. How bad is this mobo problem?

WizardNYC · #16 Post by **WizardNYC** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:03 pm

wantathinkpad well I hope I just some bad luck and got a bad motherboard replacement, I am still no clear how bad this mb problem is with the t40s, I hoping to get more feed back to see if i should just forget about the t40 and move on, one thing wantathinkpad how long you had the t40 and have you ever had motherbaord proble before this one.

thanks

cmarti · #17 Post by **cmarti** » Mon May 22, 2006 10:50 pm

Just remember this when you buy your T4x remember to make sure it cames with three yrs warranty so you are being covered.

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