"System Update" vs "Software Installer"

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JHaislet · #1 Post by **JHaislet** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:48 pm

Having some trouble downloading the latest drivers using the Software Installer application (SATA driver & Keyboard Customizer), I went to the Thinkpad Matrix and saw a new application called "System Update".

What is this? Is it the "new" Software Installer program? It seems like Software Installer is unable to update anything else as the downloads never finish. If this is indeed the case, it sure would have been nice for Lenovo to allow the download & install of "System Update" thru Software Installer. This would have saved a couple hours of frustration while trying to get the two latest drivers.

#2 Post by **jdhurst** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:52 pm

Just search for system update, download the tool and install it. Seems to work. I uninstalled software installer first, and recommend everyone do the same. ... JD Hurst

gunston · #3 Post by **gunston** » Sun May 21, 2006 11:42 pm

my software installer is working fine.
you guys can use the same method mentioned above. if the software installer is not working well and downloading driver endlessly.

raabjerg · #4 Post by **raabjerg** » Mon May 22, 2006 7:39 am

Seems the system update is a replacement of software installer:

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... OFT-UPDATE

DIGITALgimpus · #5 Post by **DIGITALgimpus** » Mon May 22, 2006 3:24 pm

Yup... seems the big difference is system update is supposed to keep you up to date, from the sound of it, it will operate more like windows update and automatically download for you (background process).

Also sounds like it's transitioning, so software installer may go away (at least that's my interpretation of the docs online).

DIGITALgimpus · #6 Post by **DIGITALgimpus** » Tue May 23, 2006 11:02 am

Anyone else find system update has some connection issues?

raabjerg · #7 Post by **raabjerg** » Tue May 23, 2006 12:39 pm

Yeah - I was just about to ask myself. Can't get beyond the "cannot connect to package content server"...

akhavan · #8 Post by **akhavan** » Tue May 23, 2006 2:46 pm

I have both of them on my T41p and they both work correctly.

Sepehr

#9 Post by **bill bolton** » Tue May 23, 2006 5:42 pm

DIGITALgimpus wrote:Anyone else find system update has some connection issues?

Whatever Software Update 2 uses for its functional connectivity mechanism, it is different from Software Installer's functional connectivity mechanism

I cannot get Software Update 2 to connect when my T43 is attached to our corporate WAN (which has industrial strength firewalls) but it works fine on my home Internet connection (through a NAT router). Software Installer works fine in on both networks.

There is something in the help file for Software Update 2 about entering proxy settings which is clearly realated to the corporate WAN issues, however it seems like I'd need to turn that setting on and off as I changed networks, which seems like a big nusiance, so I haven't fully investigated it as yet.

Cheers,

Bill

gunston · #10 Post by **gunston** » Tue May 23, 2006 5:48 pm

software installer works better for me

mrpaulin · #11 Post by **mrpaulin** » Tue May 23, 2006 6:19 pm

I've fallen in love with the new software installer!

DIGITALgimpus · #12 Post by **DIGITALgimpus** » Tue May 23, 2006 6:41 pm

raabjerg wrote:Yeah - I was just about to ask myself. Can't get beyond the "cannot connect to package content server"...

Same here, 2 days now.

#13 Post by **jdhurst** » Thu May 25, 2006 4:58 pm

Follow up on System updater. I think my suspicions have been confirmed. It is nothing more than a cosmetic update of Update Connector (which was a very poor program). There are a pile of new updates out for the "T" series starting in mid-May 2006. The new updater found one out of six. Worse, when I downloaded and exploded them into the proper driver folder, Updater could not find them. Installer handled this quite well.

System Updater 2 is just going backward. I am mightily unimpressed. ... JD Hurst

Edit: Yup - System Updater 2 is a goner. It did not recognize the updates I had done and is telling me to re-do them. Now it is telling me my BIOS is out of date which it is not. This was one of the very same issues with Update Connector - it didn't know which way was up. Updater 2 is doing the same thing. Back to manual for me.

DIGITALgimpus · #14 Post by **DIGITALgimpus** » Thu May 25, 2006 5:13 pm

Software Installer has been great for me.

SU is bombing (can't connect).

I hope that's not the way of the future.

Paul Unger · #15 Post by **Paul Unger** » Thu May 25, 2006 6:02 pm

Hmmm, I'm with you jdhurst . . . I just ran SU and it told me I needed to update my BIOS to 3.20. I already HAVE 3.20 installed

So how do you go about manual updates?

#16 Post by **jdhurst** » Thu May 25, 2006 6:54 pm

I go to:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... country=us
key in my machine type, download updates, explode them into c:\drivers\winxpp\"drivername" and run set up from there. I delete any prior folders in winxpp before exploding any given update. Then I have a nice neat list in c:\drivers that is everything currently installed. Been doing that for years now, and neat habits (once engrained) are hard to break. ... JD Hurst

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