Security chip logins are painfully slow

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Security chip logins are painfully slow

#1 Post by Bgradid » Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:01 pm

I was just wondering if anyone knew how to speed up the process of security chip validation for logins, as it is right now it seems to take up to a good 45 seconds to just get authenticated. This is anoying for making the laptop useful in quick on/off situations and feels unneccessary. In the meantime I've turned it off.

So is there any way to get the security chip to validate logins to windows faster? Is my chip just slow, or is this normal?

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#2 Post by _erazor_ » Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:19 pm

I`d love to verify your findings.

I know I can enable the security chip in the bios, but how do I enable windows to use it for logins? I`d love to try that.

if you tell me how I can enable that, then I`d love to test how long it takes for me.
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#3 Post by Bgradid » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:01 am

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-46391

I think that should be the link to the software needed.

I've got version 6 , maybe I should try version 7 in a bit, prehaps they speeded things up
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#4 Post by Nick Y » Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:00 am

CSS7 seems even slower!

Password manager is very slow to bring up the fingerprint picture in order to swipe and hence gain access to a protected item.

Logging on, from scratch, seems to take much longer -and at least one other person noticed it too. (See 'New CSS 7 (Client Security Solution) Posted July 19, 2006' topic in 'thinkpads.com Support Community Forum Index -> Windows OS')
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#5 Post by testthings » Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:12 am

It takes 165 seconds for CSS 7.0 to "check the status of the embedded security chip"!! :evil: It's ridiculous. I'm going to remove it.
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#6 Post by Nick Y » Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:23 pm

testthings wrote:It takes 165 seconds for CSS 7.0 to "check the status of the embedded security chip"!! :evil: It's ridiculous. I'm going to remove it.
That IS slow! Perhaps you have something else slowing things up. E.g. A problem with Wireless access or with Access Connections; these two are well discussed candidates for very slow log in times. (I would recommend a search through the various topics here before you start removing anything.)
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#7 Post by bigben20 » Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:31 pm

Security chip login was alright before I reinstalled Windows but since last 24 hours, after fresh Windows XP installation, its like a nightmare. I turned it off on my T40. :(

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#8 Post by Bgradid » Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:43 pm

I'm going to get around to installing linux in a week or two once finals are over, i'm curious to see if the linux drivers for the security chip are slow as well.
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#9 Post by dagordon » Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:04 pm

I was having major delay issues with CSS6; with CSS7 they're virtually gone. I was very happy when I noticed this.

Did you uninstall CSS6 before installing CSS7? Maybe try uninstalling, restarting, going into BIOS, turning security chip off, restarting again, and installing CSS7 fresh? (I assume installing CSS7 will turn the chip back on.) I know it sounds silly but you never know.

good luck.

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#10 Post by testthings » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:49 am

Nick Y wrote:That IS slow! Perhaps you have something else slowing things up. E.g. A problem with Wireless access or with Access Connections; these two are well discussed candidates for very slow log in times. (I would recommend a search through the various topics here before you start removing anything.)
I've found what the problem is.
It's the two virtual adapters of Vmware. Since I use bridging mode only, I disable both adapters and stop DHCP/NAT service. CSS 7.0 works fine now.
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#11 Post by Bgradid » Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:03 am

So CSS 7 gets rid of the huge delay? if that's the case, i'm in!

edit -- it does, wow, logins take under 5 seconds now I think :D
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#12 Post by planetf1 » Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:47 am

STartup/logins took a long time for me with CSS7 (extra 1 min at startup, probably 20-30s to login).

I do still have the vmware adaptors active (but that's fixed in v7?)

With fingerprint active, but CSS disabled authentication takes <1s

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#13 Post by Hotbrick » Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:33 am

Can anyone tell me how to turn the security chip off/on?

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#14 Post by Nick Y » Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:48 am

You can disable it in the BIOS or disable in Client Security Solution; advanced menu; manage security policies. CSS is probably the better way.
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#15 Post by agent00111 » Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:11 pm

I had recently uninstalled CSS (older version) and reinstalled CSS7.0. My authentication time using fingerprint reader was horrid after css7.0, well over 20 seconds at times, and most often it would not remove/change the login screen to indicate that the fingerprint was read correctly until after 3-7 seconds.

FIX: I was able to get rid of most of this lag by doing the following:

1. DEACTIVATE the embedded security chip. When prompted, reboot for changes to take effect.

2. After reboot and login (via username/password), I was prompted by popup wizard asking if I wanted to ACTIVATE the embedded security chip. I did so (and I think obligatory reboot for settings to take effect), and from that point on my fingerprint authentication has been working fine. I also have password manager running concurrently and I'm not seeing any problems there either.

I'm not sure why that worked, I was just happy to get authentication using the fingerprint reader back to zippy speed. (I use a thinkpad x41t tablet, so fingerprint reader is kinda necessary to log in without penning in password or folding back the lid to get to the keyboard).

Anyhow, thought I'd just post this in case it is of help to others.

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