Seagate vs Hitachi 7200 rpm drives for T43

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ewalker3 · #1 Post by **ewalker3** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:11 pm

Any recommendations on which one would be better?
anyone have links to any place that has it at a good price?

thanks,
ed

djpharoah · #2 Post by **djpharoah** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:11 pm

you will probably have much better luuck with hitachi drives.

unimorpheus · #3 Post by **unimorpheus** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:36 pm

you will probably have much better luuck with hitachi drives.

I agree. The specs on the 100Gb 7200rpm hitachi are all around better. The shock resistance, both operating and non operating, were key considerations in my decision to go with Hitachi. The hitachi drives also have a proven method of getting around the 2010 error as well but I don't know for sure if the Seagates even generates the error.

cmarti · #4 Post by **cmarti** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:30 pm

Go with the hitachi!

christopher_wolf · #5 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:10 pm

I would strongly recommend the Hitachi HDD.

fbrdphreak · #6 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:28 pm

And here is an actual definitive answer:
http://www.laptoplogic.com/reviews/detail.php?id=104

agarza · #7 Post by **agarza** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:22 am

I've a Hitachi E7K100 and it runs perfectly

christopher_wolf · #8 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:14 am

fbrdphreak wrote:And here is an actual definitive answer:
http://www.laptoplogic.com/reviews/detail.php?id=104

Definitive in what sense?

I have run across the latest 160GB from Seagate and wasn't all that thrilled considering it did make more noise than a comparable Hitachi (which and seemed faster and quieter in my system) and appeared to be slightly slower than the Hitachi for the same level of fragmentation.

Right now, you are going to end up paying alot more for no real improvement except jamming in more HDD capacity. As that review says, I would wait until it comes down to either MSRP at the *least* or well below it. In this case, it is probably overkill for what is required.

fbrdphreak · #9 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:17 am

The price has come down from MSRP, the review was written quite a while ago. More important are the benchmarks of almost all other 2.5" PATA drives in that review. There is also a 2.5" roundup before that which discusses the same results minus the 160GB if you want color commentary on it.

The 7K100 is a great drive for a great price, but Seagate has it beat on noise & warranty length.

christopher_wolf · #10 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:27 am

I would still go with the 7K100 as it is pretty much tried and proven and follows on to one of the most popular (for a reason) HDD put into most laptops. The three that I have seen of those 160GBs were, for whatever reason, significantly noisier than a 7K100 with a touch more vibration and clicking; around the level of fan noise, which I found very suprising especially compared to another Seagate which was quieter. Warranty is, however, one of Seagate's strongpoints when it comes to that; although I *do* have several IBM/Hitachi HDDs that are now approaching 7 years of age and they show little to no sign of giving up anytime in the near future and they did outlast shoddier ones from the likes of Maxtor (ugh).

ewalker3 · #11 Post by **ewalker3** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:37 pm

hey guys there are two 7k100 100gigs on newegg
is this the one i should get:
HITACHI Travelstar 7K100 HTS721010G9AT00 (0A25015) 100GB 7200 RPM ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM

its $134

also how can i make a cd set of the ibm and windows media?
the recovery disks utility errors out when i tried to run it.

cmarti · #12 Post by **cmarti** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:11 pm

ewalker3 wrote:hey guys there are two 7k100 100gigs on newegg
is this the one i should get:
HITACHI Travelstar 7K100 HTS721010G9AT00 (0A25015) 100GB 7200 RPM ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM

its $134

also how can i make a cd set of the ibm and windows media?
the recovery disks utility errors out when i tried to run it.

You should use this one:

100GB 7200 RPM ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM

semaj · #13 Post by **semaj** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:29 pm

I have been a firm backer for seagate in the recent years. I like thta they will back up thier hard drives for more years than most of the competition. How do the warrantys comparez?

simms · #14 Post by **simms** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:15 am

A lot of people talk about Seagate's warranty; I was also a huge backer, until I got my 7200.10 DOA. So I RMA'd it, and spend about 1 month back and forth with Seagate. The replacement was OOS for about 2-3 weeks.

While eventually they did get it to me, it did take a while. For their part, though, they upgraded my DOA 300GB drive with a 400GB instead.

Gustavo · #15 Post by **Gustavo** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:20 pm

I like the Seagate better than the Hitachi ones for first I have owned 6 Seagate HDD for desktop machines and 3 Hitachis. After 2+ years of use the Hitachis got more noisy and one even failed. The Seagates are always quiet even after many years of use. And with the warranty thats an big plus.
There is an reason why Seagate is the biggest HDD maker in the world , there products are the best.

These are my opinions and are too be taken as such......

(My dream HDD is the 160GB Seagate Momentus, ahh plenty of storage and the fastest 5400RPM drive out there)

DIGITALgimpus · #16 Post by **DIGITALgimpus** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:32 pm

Gustavo wrote:I like the Seagate better than the Hitachi ones for first I have owned 6 Seagate HDD for desktop machines and 3 Hitachis. After 2+ years of use the Hitachis got more noisy and one even failed. The Seagates are always quiet even after many years of use. And with the warranty thats an big plus.
There is an reason why Seagate is the biggest HDD maker in the world , there products are the best.

I generally agree, but Seagate is the biggest HDD maker because they bought more of the larger HDD makers than their competition. It's not about quality.

christopher_wolf · #17 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:39 pm

DIGITALgimpus wrote: It's not about quality.

Indeed; considering they bought Maxtor.

raabjerg · #18 Post by **raabjerg** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:42 pm

Personally, I like the Seagate drives way better. For me, they have provided much more tolerable noise levels, compared to the Hitatchi-drives I've tried...

Dead1nside · #19 Post by **Dead1nside** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:40 pm

christopher_wolf wrote:
DIGITALgimpus wrote: It's not about quality.
Indeed; considering they bought Maxtor.

Don't get me started with Maxtor, out of what a total of 4 HDDs I've had. Two have failed, both maxtor Diamond Plus 9 2MB Caches.

Stay away. Seagate. Hitachi. Not much difference both pretty good quality.

neomuzic · #20 Post by **neomuzic** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:23 am

I saw an article that this little samsung really keep pace with the best drives, I'm going to pickup this guy instead of going 7200 and eating battery

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822152032

ewalker3 · #21 Post by **ewalker3** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:26 pm

Im looking to upgrade the hard drive in my T43 2668-73U
The bios version is 1.29

i looked on new egg is this the hard drive i should get for it:

HITACHI Travelstar 7K100 HTS721010G9AT00 (0A25015) 100GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
$134 dollars?

also will i run into that error if i use this hard drive in my laptop? I just updated the bios the other day?

let me know as i want to order this thing tomorrow.

ed

christopher_wolf · #22 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:43 am

They are compatible and you should run into *no* error. I can't see any logical reason why you would.

ewalker3 · #23 Post by **ewalker3** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:10 pm

i just wanted to be sure since there seems to be alot of issues change out the hard drive for the 7200rpm 100gb ones that are non IBM branded units.

thanks,
ed

stuka · #24 Post by **stuka** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:51 pm

I have actually been thinking about this as well since in the past month I have gone through three hard drives via warranty.

All Travelstar 60 7200rpm from my T42p.

Which of the 7200rpm drive do you guys think has the lowest power consumption? The link in the report seems to suggest Seagate.

I am really itching on getting rid of the extended battery because I walk around my clients all day with my laptop, so if another lower power consuming drive is there, it would be great.

ewalker3 · #25 Post by **ewalker3** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:07 pm

the hitachi ending in 015 that was recommende dhere is no longer abialable on new eg ther is one ending with 016 and it cost more than $134?

is that the new one to get?

also is there an external enclosure for these drives? Id like to put my old thinkpad drive in an external enclosure.

ed

christopher_wolf · #26 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:10 pm

There are various external 2.5" HDD enclosures that you can get; once you put in the HDD and attach the USB cable, you are ready to go.

NovaxX · #27 Post by **NovaxX** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:47 pm

Lenovo has updated the hard disk firmware update utility to include the Hitachi 7K100 series. So there should no longer be a need for the use of Messar hacks, though I have not tried it out myself.

The link is as follows: Lenovo ThinkPad Harddisk Firmware Update Utility

Details as follows:

Supported list of Hard drives
Notes:
"x" means one or more characters
* means new to this release

IBM
DARA-2x
DJSA-2x
IC25NxATDA04
IC25TxATDA05
IC25NxATCS04
IC25TxATCS05
IC25NxATCS05
Hitachi
DK2x7A-x
DK2x8A-x
DK2x9A-x
DK23AA-x
DK23BA-x
DK23CA-x
DK23DA-x
DK23EA-x
DK23FB-x
HGST
IC25NxATMR04
HTS5480xxM9AT00
HTS7260xxM9AT00
HTS4240xxM9AT00
HTS5410xxG9AT00
HTS7210xxG9AT00 => This is the model code for all 7K100 drives
DK1xFA-x
HTC4260xxG7AT00
HTC4260xxG9AT00
HGST HTS4212xxH9AT00 *
Toshiba
MKx09MAT
MKx19GAX
MKx26GAX
Toshiba MKxx32GAX *
Fujitsu
MHN2xAT
MHR2xAT
MHT2xAT
MHT2xAH
Seagate
ST980825A
ST910021A

As a reference, the following was taken from the Hitachi Global Storage Technologies website:

Travelstar 7K100 models / Capacity (GB) / RPM / Interface

HTS721010G9AT00 / 100 / 7200 / Parallel-ATA

HTS721080G9AT00 / 80 / 7200 / Parallel-ATA

HTS721060G9AT00 / 60 / 7200 / Parallel-ATA

HTS721010G9SA00 / 100 / 7200 / Serial-ATA

HTS721080G9SA00 / 80 / 7200 / Serial-ATA

HTS721060G9SA00 / 60 / 7200 / Serial-ATA

Esben · #28 Post by **Esben** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:11 pm

I've had great success with IBM/Hitachi drives. Every custom build I've made is using IBM/Hitachi drives, and none have failed, and each has performed excellent. The Thinkpad has a 7K100, which is fast and larger than the org. drive, and the HTPC runs a T7K500 320 GB, which works great.

ewalker3 · #29 Post by **ewalker3** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:28 pm

perhaps, but the hitachi hard drive that came with my thinkpad t43 bought august 05 didnt last more than a year.

ewalker3 · #30 Post by **ewalker3** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:10 pm

Installed a new hts721010g9st00 /0a25015 hard drive into my thinkpad

and i am getting that error message at startup.

i got that firmware updated from the link posted here
i made the cd and it says this drive doesnt need firmware update?

anyideas. I want to get rid of tha tmessage without hacking the thing.

ed

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